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FranceTheKidPunisher10 months ago

Hi, it's been few month until i find some time to look into emulator. (and I am not quite good with computers)

Anyway, i have made some test i wanted to do and it save me a lot of time from dont it on real cartridge. Negative speed modifier works as intended, it slows you down, and if you reach -100% speed (and even further), which in reality is not possible, your character will move in moonwalk in the opposite direction. I also made some test with wisdom, gandalf needs +13 wisdom from equipment to One shot Nazgul on the bonus map in Normal difficulty. So i will focus on farming items with wisdom and speed (as always to be fast!) to reclaim the last bonus map where i'm not 1st. See you

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FranceTheKidPunisher11 months ago

Thanks, i am studying a run with magicians/illlusionists but i lack xp as i need multiple character to level up. And at final, i am not sure the time i gain on some level is bigger than the time i lost playing more than 1 character each turn the rest of the time

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FranceTheKidPunisher11 months ago

Hi, talking about categories. I dont see in rules chart that you can't change xp stat and gold modifier. So my question is: do runs absolutely needs to be at standard modifier (aka 100%) to be valid?

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FranceTheKidPunisher1 year ago

Hi, if you can create item as you want instead of looting them, can you make some test? The game has trouble with negative xp modifier, can you try and check if there is a point where negative speed modifier glitch too? Thanks

FranceTheKidPunisher1 year ago

Thanks, good luck for your runs

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FranceTheKidPunisher1 year ago

There is no river or snowbird prefixe for bows or staffs, you can search it forever^^

In fact, i read that item have "prefered" location but can be find with less probability on area next to their prefered area. Bonus maps have bigger pool of modifier than story area, from what i read.

If i got time, i will maybe do an xcell to list modifier by area depending of what i drop

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FranceTheKidPunisher1 year ago

My legolas have almost no hp, currently if i rush the first stage i got killed by the random arrows/explosions on the road, even if we are in normal difficulty... So i will first check on Moria bonus map if the ability has an impact, then i will farm health stat to pass Helm's Deep first level. Note that i make it to stage 2 and for the moment it seems that Legolas attacks clean the waves slowly compares to what i saw on your try with Eowyn. (and i think you had the problem too, my GBA doesn't like when there is too much items on the floor at the same area and time, it slows the game as fu**

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FranceTheKidPunisher1 year ago

Ok thanks for reading, i have a last tip (useful for people like me with only 1 exemplar of the game and only 4 save slots):

there is a glitch for levelling, go to the paths of the dead and find a Ethereal (accessory) which gives -10% xp. It sounds awful but the game seems to have problem to calculate it!

Be sure to equip your new best friend for levelling and do not have any bonus positif in xp (item or passve skill), goes to moria bonus map and kill ONLY the yellow/brown gobelin, each kill will make you pass level by 2-3 until 52 (the max), you will receive the good amont of skill point and caracteristic points by the way.

BUT IF YOU KILL AN ELITE (green), you will glitch your character and he will pass level 101, skill point and caracteristic point awarded will also glitch and will not be given correctly. No stress if it happens just don't save and try not kill them.

I didn't see any advantage being lvl 101, i mean you will still have skill point but nowhere to spent them, and caracteristic points gain will not help you to max out all the caracteristic so you still need to farm kills.

And even impact on forge item buyable seems very low/inexistant. And even if it permit better item, those item could have been looted in normal ways with some luck (and still you need luck by buying them in forge)

Most of the information i put here for helping to speedrun NG+ are information i read (and use) on the reddit about this game, thanks to all of them

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FranceTheKidPunisher1 year ago

The %speed now (in put the maximum bonus value between "" ""):

Prefixe:

  • Armor,headgear&shield "Brush Lord's" (""+10%"") Area Edoras, Helm's Deep (bonus map), // Anduin (not sure 100% but i think i have found some here)

  • Weapons "River's"(""+10%"") Area Anduin and "Snow Bird's" (""+10%"") White Mountains (just before Anduin)

  • Staff & Bow "Gollum's"(""+15%) area unkown

  • Accessories "Sharded" and "Green Copper" both at (""+5%"") [area unknown]

  • Gloves&Shoes "worn", "Boatman's","Horseman's" all at (""+5%"") those 3 prefixe almost cover all the game in term of area, but "Boatman's","Horseman's" can be both found in Anduin (+Helm's Deep for "horseman's")

Suffixe there is a lot i put only those i know:

"of the fox" (+5%) can be found at Isengard and Edoras (2 first level)

"of the hound" (+5%) can be found at Moria and Anduin

"of Umbar" (""+10%"") Helm's Deep //[Anduin no item found yet but Umbar is a port and there is one in Anduin area]

Note that for shoes, the item "wrapping" have already +10% speed at base so hope the god of luck will put the prefixe and suffixe on some of them

As conclusion at best we can have for speed:

Gollum's (Bow or Staff) of Umbar (+25%) area unknow, not even sure if an area can have both prefixe and suffixe

Brush's Lord (Armor ) of Umbar (+20%) (can be found at Helm's Deep //to confirm at Anduin)

Brush's Lord (Headgear) of Umbar (+20%) (can be found at Helm's Deep //to confirm at Anduin)

Brush's Lord (Shield) of Umbar (+20%) (can be found at Helm's Deep //to confirm at Anduin)

River's (Weapon) of Umbar (+20%) (to confirm at Anduin) if not River's (Weapon) of the Hound (+15%) at Anduin

XXXXX (Coat) of Umbar (+10%)(can be found at Helm's Deep //to confirm at Anduin)

XXXXX (Accessory) of Umbar (+10%)(can be found at Helm's Deep //to confirm at Anduin) if "sharded" or "Green Copper" have an area in common with "of Umbar" maximum will become +15%

Horseman's (Shoes:Wrapping) of Umbar (+25%) can be found at Helm's Deep //[to confirm Boatman's (Shoes:Wrapping) of Umbar (+25%) can be found at Anduin]

Horseman's (Gloves) of Umbar (+15%) can be found at Helm's Deep //[to confirm Boatman's (GLoves) of Umbar (+15%) can be found at Anduin]

Again, speed seems capped at +70%, reaching all these maximum would be amazing but may not improve your speed at some point. And also the items character can wear can vary, mainly weapon.

So if you have to optimize speed between character go for accessory,coat,gloves which are common and go for easy prefixe for the rest, it should be enough for all characters.

To finish i will share what i have as speed items:

(Coat) of the fox (+5%) [All characters]

Brush Lord's (Headgear) of the hound (+15%) [All characters]

Green Copper (Accessory) of Osgiliath (+10%) [All characters/wearable 2 times by Frodo]

Horsman's (Gloves) (+5%) [All characters]

Brush Lord's (Armor) (+10%) [All characters because it's not a big armor so still wearable by gandalf]

Horseman's (Shoes:Wrapping) (+15%) [All characters except Frodo]

(Bow) of Dimholt (+5%) [Legolas]

Snowbird (Weapon) (+10%) [I'm used to farm white mountain with gimli to loot a weapon for the Character i try to do a speedrun in NG+, so i can say: All characters except Legolas]

Brush Lord's (Shield) (+10%) [All characters except Legolas and Gandalf]

(Staff) of the sky (+5%) [Gandalf]

So for each character i currently have these speed bonus with items:

Aragorn (+80%),Gimli(+80%),Eowyn(+80%),Gandalf(75%),Frodo(75%),Legolas(+65%) [Legolas passive skill make him at 90% so it's ok)

I'm technically able to speedrun every character. But in fact i'm still looking for better speed item to maybe go to other modifiers like dodge to avoid being hit, or damage to 1shot bosses

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FranceTheKidPunisher1 year ago

Thank you to have started this guide.

I will put some information here, you will be free to edit your post to include them (or not)

I will only talk about farm in first and items in second, because you have done a pretty good job about the rest (except you forgot the invisibility spell of Legolas)

So for new comers (and old folks that want to learn some topics):

To speedrun this game in NG+ you will need at least 75% increase speed, i have made experimentation and tested different speed% and it seems the speed is capped at +70% (so go for 75% to be sure)

That said, it means that you need 50% speed on items for Legolas and Eowyn (25% can be gained from their passive) and 75% for the rest of the character.

Ist-->So you will need to farm item a lot, i will try to give you some topics.

1-the level of your character doesnt have an influence on the loots. It has impact on item you buy in the forge but, oh god, it's bad % because % Extra Treasure is not take in account in forge. So yeah you can try to test your luck on forge if you want but not the good process i think, so go farm some item to have more % treasure increase

2- Of course with difficulty increase (hard, and grueling) you have access to better loot but you need to keep in mind that it's better to farm quickly a lot of item than fewer (and not necessarly better, hey it's still based on luck). So pass the difficulty upper when you can clean the ennemies quickly

3- Gimli is the best to do a Magic FInder build (build know in many RPG or Hack&Slash for looting better items)

He has 75% Extra Treasure in his passive tree, which means he can just by leveling already find better items. Maximum % Extra Treasure via item on gimli is +660%

It will take a lot of time, mine is only +400% and i played for years (not everyday but since 2005 it begins to represent big time). But i also didn't had all the information i have now (that would have help...)

4- go for elite and treasure chest if you farm an area with low number of ennemies. Standard ennemies are worth in big numbers, kill those on your way but dont clean 100% the area each time if it takes you more time for almost nothing

5-why did i say farm "an area" because item's modifier are linked with areas so if you search for specific modifier (which you do for "% Extra Treasure" and then "% speed") you need to go to specifics areas. When you have cleaned an area but still need some item from it, then save and reload to do it again, and again, and again, and again...

2nd-->So about items: they can have 1 prefixe and/or 1 suffixe

Base item's name is in color yellow (let's call them Normal)

Item's name (with prefixe) is in color green (let's call them Magic item)

Item's name (with suffixe) is in color red (let's call them Rare item)

Item's name (with prefixe+suffixe) is also in color red (let's call them Legendary)

Suffixes can be on all type of item, but each type of item have their own prefixes (if a prefixe is on 2 different type of item it will not do the same bonus)

For exemple: prefixe "pirate's" on gloves gives +1 Accuracy, +35% Extra Treasure but on armor it gives +1 Strength, +1 Accuracy, +3 Health

There are 6 type of item: Armor,headgear,shield/ Weapons/ Staffs & Bows/ Accessories/ Gloves & Shoes / Coat

I have noted that prefixe are more common than suffixe, so when grinding your % treasure increase, you will first loot more and more of Magic item. And at one stage, Rare item will too be more consistent in loot.

And then Legendary will also become more accessible but, oh god they are so frustrating. Because they have their suffixe and prefixe at random (still depending of the area you loot them) but, damned, they almost always not good together.

I mean to reach the 75% speed if you want to have good times in speedrun you will need some Legendaries with both prefixe and suffixe to be +%speed modifier (at the moment i only got 2 item like that and it seems i'm good with the 75%)

Let's begin with % Extra Treasure (in put the maximum bonus value between "" ""):

Prefixe it's quick, only accessories and Gloves&Shoes can have prefixe with this bonus:

For gloves you have also easy access to "pirate's" (+35%) and at higher difficulties "bloody pirate's"(""+45%"") in anduin area (with the corsairs) but also find some of them in bonus map Moria [other prefixes are quite low compare to those so go rush them instead]

For accessories there is: "Dark Sapphire"(""+90%"") areas unknown at the moment (let me know where you loot it if you have one) [other prefixes are quite low compare to this one so go rush it instead]

Suffixe there is a lot of them, they goes from +15% to +60%. I just farm two of them "of luck" (+30%) [aera Moria] and "of the Fates"(""+60%"") [Moria and Helm's Deep]

note i found "of the Fates" only in grueling difficulty

-->Item explication continue next post

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FranceTheKidPunisher1 year ago

Thanks, i think there is a possible path to skip dialogue with the boy at dimholt, corsair boss trolled me by turning at last moment, normally i 1shot him with multiple arrow spell+some little clash to avoid. I'm sure we can do better than this run.

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FranceTheKidPunisher1 year ago

Hello, there is a reason you dont use the spell that permit to pass throught the ennemies?

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