EnglandI'm erring on the side of "No". My reasoning is that just because you don't hit anything with it doesn't mean it's not still using a weapon that isn't Knife.
The rules as they're written are "only use standard melee weapons" and I don't think a bomb could be reasonably classed as a melee weapon, so I'm going with the written rule.
a bomb is merely a melee AoE attack when you think about it though really
I verify literally almost all of the runs lmao.
psar, literally all you've ever done is act like a dickhead to every single person who moderates this game endlessly and wondering why you're not gaining much traction with anything. Just stop posting.
I'm sorry being told how it is makes you uncomfortable and bitchy. And serious lol if you think my moderation has anything to do with the activity of the game. I'm also pretty sure this is still the most active game on sr.c so you're wrong on multiple different levels.
P.S Your stream layout and thumbnails are garbage and verifying your runs is physically painful for me.
Thread locked. This is going nowhere.
[quote]That "practice" can be called "Individual Level" [/quote]
I mean, no it couldn't smartass. Because the point of the name "Individual Level" is the word "Individual". It's individual, measured only in a vacuum. Maingame is not measured in a vacuum.
there is no part of RE7 that is not effected by considerations you have to make for the parts of the run before or after it.
Jack's Birthday is a game of Individual Levels. Main game is not.
I don't run this game at all and may have accidentally started this argument in the first place by telling Chaps to run it by everyone first instead of just releasing the program openly.
But literally this exact thing was brought up before for one of the Silent Hill games and the mere suggestion of locking the RNG for random puzzles was laughed out of the room basically unanimously. Super Meat Boy also had dalliances with locking the RNG for one of its major rng breakpoints in one of its boss patterns and that also got shot the fuck down.
I don't allow myself to have a specific opinion because I don't play the games, but what I will provide is perspective. I have seen this exact argument occur a couple of times in other games and I have never ever seen those game's communities go for it.
I would be completely baffled if RE3 decides to be the exception.
Dirty Coin is allowed in the New Game+ categories. It actually saves a pretty healthy amount of time in Madhouse NG+ because of the Scorpion Key. I don't know where you'd use it in Easy mode that would be faster? Nevertheless, you can!
It is not used in New Game, it's classed as a "bonus item". I'll add this little bit to the rules to make them clearer.
"If SDA exists, why should we have player made runs here?"
Fundamentally different objectives of the websites. SDA is not, has never been and has never purported to be, a record-tracking website.
This website is a record-tracking website. Or at least a decent enough community-driven approximation of one. Still, you get the idea. They do different things.
I dunno what the rest of the argument is at all, it's really confusing and hard to follow, just don't do TAS things in a real-time speedrun, ok?
"Where are these policies listed?"
They're not, really. It's just rules you can assume to apply to basically every game unless explicitly stated otherwise. It's usually just thought to be common sense.
"Are you referring to an overall ruling or the aggregate rulings made by many individual communities?"
Games that had their speed communities largely cultivated and developed by the Japanese tend to have different rulesets because the Japanese just have had historically different ways of timing things and rules. This is gradually being less common but I still thought it bore mention.
"I feel like if games like Half-Life are willing to accept runs that are patched together from separate runs to form the perfect run or runs that are performed at a slower speed, then replayed at a faster rate to appear normal"
They don't on their leaderboards, those are special demonstration videos. TASes. Collaborative efforts from the community to create a perfect demonstration.
"Why can't we call a run that uses save states "tool assisted"?"
Because the logical conclusion of that is doing an actual TAS. And actual TAS work isn't generally competitive, and thus doesn't really go on a leaderboard focused website, it tends to be more collaborative creation.
"To take it a step further, who is to say what "legit hardware" consists of?"
Is it an official release? If so, legit. If not, not. You hit exceptions with this, but the core is uncomplicated.
"Should we separate runs performed on consoles from those performed on emulators?"
Some games do, yes. Depends.
"I say this because there are other options you can do with an emulator, such as modify framerates or change the audio / graphic plugins to improve performance or decrease load time, that you cannot do with a console."
Yes and those would generally be banned.
"At what point does using an emulator become "tool assisted"?"
At the point where you're doing things that are not possible on official hardware.
I'm speaking incredibly broadly, these guidelines will generally serve you well but try to imagine everything I say having an asterisk next to it because there are exceptions to this stuff depending on game/community/console.
Also, since the two of you seem genuinely in need of this advice, I'll chuck this one in as a freebie: Turbo controllers are also almost globally banned. That is another one of those borderline global rulings.
A forum post won't work because most people aren't going to read it and it may not apply to every single game, it's just going to apply for about 99% of the game. Most PC games with some time of quicksave/quickload is generally allowed, despite them being functionally identical to savestates? Why? Because normal copies of the game running on normal machines can do it. If you were playing a PC game that couldn't do this and instead took to running it in a VM or something and savestating the VM, you'd then be in violation of the global policy because it's overstepping the boundaries of the game itself. A NES game running on an actual NES cannot savestate, that is the reason it is a banned functionality, because it requires you to modify the game beyond its own parameters.
A very small number of games also allow turbo controllers. These tend to be games with Japanese rulesets because Japan just didn't ban them. It's true for 99% of games, but still, you get exceptions.
there isn't really any way to get around the fact some of this stuff won't be said out loud because it's just assumed universal knowledge across speedrunners and some people just aren't going to figure it out immediately and get called on it. It's fine, that will happen, just take the knowledge and move on.
"Why is it okay to have tabs for runs that use glitches, but not one runs that use save states?"
Because one can be performed on legit hardware and the other can't.
I'm not trying to be glib here but it is literally that simple.
"I feel like not using save states is a personal preference, not a community-wide rule"
It is definitely a community-wide rule and you'll get your ass nailed to the wall by basically every single game on the website if you try.
"why don't you create two separate tabs: one for using save states and one for not using them?"
Noooooo, no, no no. Holy fuck hell do not do that. Just don't use savestates in your runs, jfc. Please end this bad meme of mod being given to people who have no idea what to do with it.
"and removing that aspect takes the fun out of the game. "
Less that and more that it's like, literally cheating? Its a modification unavailable to those on legitimate hardware, therefore it has no place on a speedrun leaderboard. Retron 5 is not legit hardware before that comes up, it's emulators in a box. If you're running on that, disclose it by marking runs with "Emu" and preferably stating that it's being ran on Retron 5, I don't even know Retron 5 is generally accepted for NES speedrunning?
either way savestate category is the single worst idea I have ever heard in my entire life please for the love of god consult with some other NES game moderators for guidance
ケニーは私に返信していた...
We can probably lock this thread now, it's not going anywhere.
is there even a single actual chinese runner
Are you serious
中国語版は法的に買収ができます。より速いバージョンを使用する方がいいんじゃない？率直に言って法的脅威が愚かに見える。 同意しないので無礼にしないでください
The chinese version is legal to buy, isn't it better to use a faster legal version? Frankly, threatening legal action is ridiculous, please stop being a dick because you don't agree with this.
i am bored enough that I wanted to see if writing it in japanese would help and no I didn't run it through google translate I am probably just about as bad as google translate lmao
Jokes are supposed to be funny.
冗談ではないみたいね
