I agree with icy also. Using an old version of the game makes it less accessible and is more than likely going to kill the game. Steam users will down patch if they really want to but a casual speed runner or somehow who wants to just try to speedrun will probably pick up a game that doesn't require any extra effort to play. Xbox runs are not even worth the effort now because they have two disadvantages now. And trying to speed run the current version to try to compete against the old patch is is laughable. Forget about all the other patches and just think of how important weapon swap was. The WSG let you skip so many phases of so many bosses now that it's patched you are going to add so much time to you run. As the game is right now I feel the only category really worth playing is glitches because I atleast know it's fair for all players (on pc cause Xbox players still have to submit RTA). But as for glitched runs I think we should be moving forward with the game instead of playing an outdated version of it. I really think we should take a better look at icy's solutions and decide which way the cuphead speed running community wants to deal with not only this patch but any other patch that will come in the future.

I think it should be included in all runs except glitchless. I really don't like the idea of making a separate category since I think Any% and All bosses is the same run done the same way except you beat the devil. So making the menu glitch a different category is just cluttering the categories for this game. And would you make a different category for Menu glitch Any%/ Menu glitch All bosses ? The whole point of this site is to do the games as quickly as possible. Music/Art shouldn't matter we are not here to judge a game by those aspects. We are here to pass games fast. I would understand if the glitch was game breaking but it's not. You still have to pass each level and that still requires skill. And if people watch other runs that runners spend a good amount of time glitching through walls or running through a black screen to get somewhere then people will watch cuphead with the menu glitch. If it's a problem for events then you simply don't do the menu glitch for the event. Nothing changes for the whole run except people have to wait for the game to give you your time and grade.

Thank you I have tested this and it is way more consistent than anything I was trying.

So I've been practicing the early knockout glitch all day today and was even able to get 16 seconds as my fastest run. But after doing this for hours I still can't really find a consistent way to pull this glitch off. Does anybody have a consistent way to pull this off ? I've been doing full runs and this level always messes up my time because it takes 3 or 4 times before I get it sometimes even more.

thank you so much. I cant believe I couldnt figure that out.

I uploaded one of my runs for cuphead yesterday but i accidentally put that I played it on xbox instead of PC. I tried to Edit the video info but i cant click on anything while its awaiting verification