Interesting glitch that allows you to clip through walls on OldDark. Can be done on NewDark by deactivating newmantle in cam_ext

I guess in an attempt to freshen up the runs for this game, is it worth trying OldDark? It's been confirmed that gentle clipping exists in SS2 (a glitch prominently used in the Thief speedruns) and it shows great promise but I'm not so sure if it's worth going back to OldDark, depending on how many glitches are exclusive to NewDark. That being said, the only issue is that both the GOG and Steam version come with NewDark thanks to Nightdive.

After a bit of testing, it seems OldDark is just worse to run compared to NewDark. The relocation clipping is an important and a heavy time-saver compared to gentle clipping, which is a lot less consistent and leaves little room for error. My run ended with Ric at the pod door near the rumbler. Of all the doors, I wasn't able to gentle clip through it and without relocation glitches, the only way to get through the door (unless some other clip spots or glitches are found for OldDark) is by destroying all the black eggs. It seems that NewDark is far faster than OldDark

Just wondering if it's still possible to door glitch on the source port version or if there's been any luck at doing so

Just wondering what kind of mods, if any, are allowed for runs involving vanilla Doom 3

As of September 29th, System Shock 2 has been updated on Steam to help be a bit more stable with Windows 10, fixing a bunch of bugs and glitches (all the glitches used for speedrunning are untouched) and a few fixes for a more modern experience. The game feels much smoother (at least from the last time I've played). I haven't checked whether the GOG version was patched as well.

How does this impact the speedrun? Not by much on the Steam version, as the pipe in the first section of rick (which was present in far older versions of the game) is the only addition this update has made, right before the mantle-relocate glitch on the ladder. Another change is the change of the .exe file from Shock2 to SS2, which means a slight tweak to the autosplit file is required (changing Shock2 to SS2).

https://imgur.com/a/BiUyi (caps of the pipe, before and after patch 2.46)

https://steamcommunity.com/games/238210/announcements/detail/1493364699937085089

Just wondering why aren't the Any% OOB runs on this leaderboard?