Hello guys, I appreciate everyone speaking up about the issue regarding mods not verifying the runs swiftly enough. First thing I would say is that yes 1 week is absolutely fine in my book, but with the amount of mods we have, yes we should be on top of it more than we we are. It could be a topic we have with all the mods to speed it up a little somehow. With regards to myself, I just started a business and its sink or swim. My main focus has been on this recently. But since there’s a lot of fuss going on right now, I will verify ALL runs unless some other mods verify before I do. Cheers. Mr_Tomahawk

I asked around in the community about the double character coop category. I suggested that it would be added as a second tab under 2 players, one being same character, the other different characters. The feedback I got was that the coop players all wanted it, and the non coop players didn’t have an issue with the category being added. Around 5 people said it should be separated from normal coop (different character coop) because they think double max would be much better than Axel Max coop; and 2 people suggested it be added as a misc category.

Without console users expressing discontent about the matter, then there is no issue to be fixed, and the change should simply not have happened in the first place. Let's start with a problem first then run it past the community. The only problem right now is that this change was done without asking the community first. There isn't enough support to keep it as it is, and theres no issue with the previous layout until console runners speak up on this forum or in Brawlers Avenue. I do think that showing which emulator you play on could be useful, this is why I write in the description that I play on Retroarch. So being able to say EMU-Retroarch for example would be nice for that emulator, and all other emulators to be on there in a similar way. But I said it before and I say it again, we should be making changes to the site when there is a demand for it. I haven't heard people complain about Console Vs EMU in this community, nor have I heard complaints about time differences on different emulators.

I don’t understand why we need new rules for comparing EMU to Console, when the console runners had no issue with the leaderboard settings before.

It's quite simple to me, once there is a problem then we fix that problem. The SoR2 community is small and It might always be this way. If our community grows larger, and console runners do wish for the split of Console and EMU, then we must make the change because it's something that the community wants. Those people don't seem to exist right now therefore the changes are not necessary.

This issue has also been discussed on the Brawlers Avenue Discord, where many runners of SoR2 have expressed that they want the changes to be reversed.

I see every reason for this to be reversed until further notice.

You make some good points on why console should be separated. My take on this issue is: what does the community want. Correct me if I am wrong, but everything done on speedrun.com is community based. Each game on the site is different depending on what moderators / runners of the game desire. Therefore a decision like this should be supported by the majority to become final.

As for console runners not wanting to run the game, do these people exist? I am genuinely curious about this because, if a decent number of people are refusing to run SoR2 because of these issues, then changing the site actually makes sense to me.

I think we should put it to a vote.

Personally, I would like to see the old layout come back. We don’t have many console runners, and the main person running console being Anthopants, he is not complaining about the old layout. A change like this should stem from a problem such as console runners being unhappy with their runs being compared with EMU runs. The old layout is easier on the eye, and it was in working order. The community should be able to vote on things like this to make sure everyone is happy with the decision.