@Mruns05 PIGOAP I would be interested in running that category if you are serious about wanting it to become one, and I would try to get more people interested
Low% Warpless would be like Warpless, except you can't touch any coins, kill any enemies, complete the level with anything more than a 000 on the timer, hit the flagpole collecting any more than 100 points, break any blocks (well I guess that would be impossible because you're stucc as small mario), or collect any powerups including 1ups. The problem with Low% is that you'd have to wait for the timer to get to 000 every level, which means more waiting than playing.
ok so This necro is worth it ok so I made an rrr TAS of this coin skip, and have come to the conclusion that this method costs time. Here's the math. On a normal any% run, you would complete the level in 29.7 seconds. On a no coin run going through the not underground, you would complete the level in 32.1 seconds This means that taking the underground route in any% is 2.4 seconds faster, or 7 framerules.
On the normal any% route, when you complete the underground you optimally complete it with a 380 on the timer. When you do the no coin underground route, I was able to complete the underground with a high 372 on the timer with a TAS. This means that the underground is 8 framerules slower vs the normal underground, and also means that it is 1 framerule slower than taking the upper boringo non underground path.
I have the TAS in case you want to see it.
in ma hu ji hu inmahujihu
I'm able to start later in the level because I don't know why. This is on Bizhawk using the game genie code PIGOAP
This is a 4:37, but I used a game genie code to swim
wait I play on Nestopia on windows but my speed is normal and gud Maybe it's the version you play on I don't know what version I play on, but it will say in my PB
That method is possible, but it's slightly more difficult. It is also slightly faster since you can get to full speed quicker That's the method you also have to do if you wanted to save the TAS 4-2 framerule with 2 bump method
@Darpey BBG can be more than 50% consistent if you're good, CoinToss is just a factor that makes it harder and not something that constricts your consistency It's all about you hitting the bullet on a good frame and at a good spot
Ok otherwise I wouldn't be able to get BBG 10X in a row (or 5X in a row starting before the plant jump). If getting CoinToss was 50/50, then the odds of someone getting BBG 10X in a row while doing everything literally perfectly every time would only be 0.09% (0.5^10) or 3.1% (0.5^5) for 5X in a row. I don't know about you but those are super low odds and assume you're a robot with everything but CoinToss.
then again maybe I should keep my mouth shut BBG is thicc and not lucc inmahujihu
4:58 is too far. You couldn't still easily 4:58 with 4 bumps in 4-2 Doing 4 bumps will cost like 3 framerules probably, and when you go for 4:58 you need every reasonable framerule to get it (reasonable in this case means stuff like 200 8-1, 342 8-2, but no hard triccs) You could potentially at least 4:59 though with 4 bump in 4-2, but at that point you're better off doing 3 bumps because 4 bump cos lotsa time.
There's literally nothing wrong with taking your time in improving in this game. Most of us are here to have fun while enjoying ourselves improving at the game and watching our PB gradually decrease (except I'm not here to have fun, I'm here to get WR). Going far in this game is almost all about dedication, so if someone takes their time, that's fine, so long as they are still working at their goals they may have.
I may have decided to go for sub 5 as my first PB, but that was a choice I decided to make. If ya boi here wants to do 4 bumps in 4-2 and he has a 5:40 and wants to get a sub 5:30, that's his choice to make. Getting better at this game is almost all about dedication. I once decided to go from 4:59 to 4:56. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who's goal is to have fun playing this game. I would recommend it to those who are dedicated to a goal and don't feel like progressing slowly or want to get that cool jump in time. Remember why you're playing. For fun, or for a goal, or for both? You can get both progressing the way you want to progress.
TLDR: 4 bump 4-2 is not redundant, 2 bump 4-2 is. 4:58 is not reasonable with 4 bump 4-2, you'll need to add BBG and 1 frame setup, 4:59 is. Are you here to have fun, or to achieve a goal, or both? You can get both playing however you wish, so long as you still move forward toward your goal and you are dedicated.
What separates faster runners from newbies is dedication to beating the game faster. That's my simplest way to put it.
In my experience, whether I hit the 1up block OR the mushroom block there seemed to be an equal chance of getting good judges or not (without trying manipulation) But also, if I hit BOTH the 1up block and the mushroom block, if I remember correctly, I found it would either be bad judges, or good judges turned bad (so like it's good judges but then idk what happens Mario slides down a pixel or the flag slides up a pixel)
It's like in-mah-hu-jihu Once I accidentally typed it and I thought it was kinda weird so now I kinda say it often I actually don't speak Spanish, I just kinda plugged what I wanted to say into google translate then boom ok it might depend on your language to determine how you say inmahujihu
I don't mean get good, I mean just complete a run and post it on src. @youtubeman06 I'm not expecting everyone, I'm just expecting like 1% of people to start. That's 1/100th of everyone. @ImDangerous20 Ok that's tru, I didn't know if there was a statistic like that Ok so you're saying most people = 99.98% of people that watch Kosmic's WR wut And I'm just saying complete a run, not quicc or anything. inmahujihu
Ok, ¿por qué están hablando español? ¿Puedes ir al modo Spanisho en mensajes directos?
El código genio del juego es AIISON (I might have just gone hypocriticalo mode) inmahujihu
@JJReed Ok, but it's really easy to start, you just go like "o hey I want to start speedrunning this game!" whip out your computer, download an emulator, find a rom somehow, and boom. When you say some people, that means out of the 3.2 million people who have watched Kosmic's 455, 99.98% of those people don't consider or decide not to speedrun smb1. If it was more like 98% or something that could make sense, but 99.98%?
@JUNO117 The lack of players compared to people who watch make sense in this case. The level that you have to play at is absolutely ridiculous in order to be one of those 1664 players. That takes years of grinding and perfecting your skill while going through whatever hard stuff you have to go through. Very high barrier to entry, and I'm assuming there are also limited spots for these players as well (so if someone is better and gets in, someone who would have gone in is no longer able to) 99.98% inmahujihu
Edit: Convincing a percentage of a large group to buy an online course, say for $997 is converts like 40X better (1% of people buy) than the percentage of people who have watched the smb1 WR to people that decide to start playing. This is kinda where I'm basing this off of.
ok so There are 888 runs on the leaderboard right now (so basically 888 unique people who have beaten smb1 and posted it on src) And then there are 90,000+ people who have watched Kosmic's tutorial on how to sub 5 There are also 3.2 million people who have watched Kosmic's 455 and many more ok so What's up with that? Why are there so many people just watching and such a low conversion rate to people actually playing and making their first run? inmahujihu
@YourFreeChicken Edited post to add "inmahujihu" to the end
@KilleDragon Ok good point But also remember, they were probably added back when there was less people and therefore less to verify and less categories and therefore less to verify, so adding new categories wouldn't be a big problem. The other thing is that those categories are pretty unique. The other thing is that maybe those categories were come up with by moderators instead of us, (example: Anti-pacifist was made up with by RoyLT, and then he ran it himself, and then he added it himself) ok that's what I have to say here inmahujihu
I think your commentary is pretty good ok so (sorry Kosmic) There's lots of things to improve on, and I would say the best way to learn from where you are right now, is to watch a faster fire mario run. This is a 5:19 You don't have to implement everything, but you can implement some things that will be the most helpful to you (like his 8-1 and 8-2 strats, you have about 130 framerules (40 seconds) to save in those 2 levels alone)
I'll be waiting for the next post when you get sub 6, "What do you think of my 5:49 run? Could any improvements be made?"
It doesn't matter whether there's a 4:54 human theory TAS right now or not, we're so far away that it's not at the utmost importance right now. or, what if I made the human theory TAS?
