Will be listing adjustments made to the page here.

6-01-2020

• Leaderboard overhaul. Any% now has additional tab. You select mode which is New Game or Ultimate Mode followed by difficulty of your choice.
• Rules updated
• Added The Man in Black IL board
• Moved Critical to it's own category as ultimate mode cannot access this
• All story routes has been removed. It's not possible to get everything in one segment as choosing between Kotaro's death and Magoichi's killing Ginghamphatts 3 is a good example for this matter
• Theme is changed
• Timing method changed into RTA for the same reason as Onimusha1

Essentially, New Game+ means that you start the game with the equipment that carries over from your previous playthrough. This game does not provide that. You skip the cutscene only if you have seen it before from your last playthrough.

After some consideration. I decided to create a discord server where we talk about the speedrun and just hang out. For those who are interested in running this series, feel free to join and ask us any questions you want!

https://discord.gg/Buz2aKZ

Instead of having all characters as a main tabs. We have changed all the main tabs to be just New Game, NG+ No items...etc. The characters will be just a sub-category followed by the difficulty of your choice. This reduced the number of tabs we had and the confusions that kept going around the players.

The rules has also been updated.

Many thanks for your contribution.

Recently, I got appointed as a mod of this board, so I want to ensure the decisions that I will make will be the best for this community without any conflicts.

As a result, this post is a data collection on community's and outsiders opinion on revamping DMC4: Special Edition board. Additionally, I'd like to hear your opinions based on the gripes of running this or the barrier of running this game. (Is it due to lack of resource ? Unforgiving ? More help needed ?..etc.)

I started this discussion with mekarazium on discord to come up an idea of further enhancement for this board.

The issues so far A ) Too much difficulties. Hell and Hell in particular should not ever exists in any DMC game. B ) Lack of exposure and community engagement in general.

Here are some of the consideration that I came up with:

Consolidating New Game + Itemless category. Along with the removal of super costume vs no super costume and unnecessary difficulties Tis without doubt the change the board need to consider. While, it's understandable to split catas, so the main ones would be at the top and arbitrary ones at misc, aka different NG+ itemless cata. It doesn't change the fact that outsiders/newcomers will get confused.

Therefore, I believe merging them together with the following adjustment might going to eliminate this issue:

1 ) Deleting Hell and Hell, Son of Sparda. Merging Legendary Dark Knight and Human together in one sub category known as misc (see DMC3:SE board)

The reason for HaH and SoS is plain simple. "Arbitrary". When it comes to going fast and there is literally no reason to run a difficulty that has very minor difference. There is also no need to challenge yourself with no damage run that has literally same scaling as SoS.

2 ) Eliminating Super costume vs No Super costume

We could add filter stating whether its a super costume or not on Nero/Dante/Vergil. Considering Lady and Trish has none. Whole different run like vergil for example yes, but I honestly think that it shouldn't be split apart with this size of players at the moment. It's also the fact that, you have unlimited DT making same cycles. The main difference is that you have unlimited extra tool access and things like auto full exceed, unlimited concentration meter and distortion.

Putting Nero/Dante. Vergil. Lady/Trish under one category called New game Looking at this structure. I believe this would make much more sense. Because the rest of categories has characters as a sub to switch around. This way we would only end up having only three tabs that are New Game, New Game+ Itemless and Misc.

I hope we can come together to resolve this and make the changes these boards need to look less overwhelming to newcomers.

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Only works on current HDC port PC/PS4/Xbox One

Above clip demonstrates how that bug works. This is very important considering how much it changes the meta for dante. The moment it connects, every other enemies regardless of the positions (on screen or off screen) even the infamous larvas can get hit while hiding. On the top of that, the glitch still persists after a game quit. The only way to stop it is that you restart the hardware.

I am pretty sure many of you would be excited on how it can be replicated. Unfortunately, we don't know how to get it working on at least a semi consistent basis. It only happens on a accident.

I finished a run while that glitch was triggered, however I did not submit due to obvious reasons.

This has been discovered before on PS4.

Additionally, there was a discussion on trying to find out if anyone else experienced the same issue, but none of that were helpful.

For the sake of healthy practice and avoid such conflicts I am proposing this board to:

• Until we can make it replicable like 100% works on all platforms consistent, runs that contain the shotgun bug should be invalid.
• From now on runs should require a twitch VOD WR or not.
• All runs require an RTA timer to displayed (Livesplit, console stream timer, etc.). PC runs require input displays (gamepad viewer, nohboard, etc.)

DMC2 or not. I care about this game a lot and I really don't want this game to end up experiencing issues that happened to other DMC games.

Hey there,

As far as i'm researching, the current IGT timer in the game seems to be relatively accurate on each platform.

Because of that, I don't see the need to split them into different platforms the only exception here is the PS2 port which does not have feature like instant switching..etc.

There is a way that we could confirm this by:

1) Record Consoles/PC for testing IGT. 2) Get a perfect three-eye cycle 3) Save the progress and check the Play Time confirming the accuracy

Considering RPCS3 existence, I have been lurking around this board a lot and in hope to see some NGB runners to get in and such.

I am surprised that no one even bothered to route this game esp the fact that you can quick use items..etc.

Is there any practical reason why ?

I may consider develop this game so it can be as optimised as black if RPSC3 decide to serve well on my third world party laptop.

Hi,

I have been lurking around onimusha series thread for a while and I have huge interest in running this series while taking slight break form DMC.

So I am wondering if there is any live splits available that I could borrow and use ?

I am surprised that this category isn't included. Considering the fact you can select and directly fight bosses in MGR why not make category for that ?