Germany- Collect as few story moons as possible; multi moons count 1
- A low% doesn't have to be fast
Regular coins are the same since you need 10000 coins for an achievement. In terms of the purples, they are actually already routed out in the doc and would have to be routed back in for 100%
Hmm, would that include controlling all moe-eyes, cacti etc. into suicide? If so, it could become dull quickly
And you're sure that there aren't more moons normally available? 420 unavailable moons sounds like a lot
I've heard you say that, but how do you know?
Well Giraffe, costumes would add coin grinding, so no
I could see that happen in True Any% with the 1.0.0 FMS and 2 players (Ikkitrix and Shaeden). Conventional Any% doubt it
Just the moons and purples, and the name is First Visit Clear (FVC)
I just don't think that Sand, Metro and Snow alone make enough of a difference to justify its own category, especially when so far the only submissions were old WP runs that didn't even come close to the WR just before clips were discovered. A category this subtly different simply doesn't seem to have enough justification to me.
Instead, expanding it to a "Full Story" category would make this category not only different, but completely unique, in Lost and Moon, and add another few minutes of time difference compared to World Peace. I do agree that story moons and non-moon cutscenes make a good distinction, though I also want to make sure you have to include the entire moon cave in your story rather than just the boss fight.
For WP no clips, I would definitely be fine with a filter on the WP leaderboard, a subcategory tab might also be okay. I just don't want it separate enough to not only gain disproportional attention, but also block the way more popular Full Story idea for being to similar
Anyone care to respond? Should ve vote on this?
So far it's really just been former WP runners submitting their old clipless runs
Actually the way it is now, one could just say we add 0 Jumps and later maybe 1 coin into the low% main tab, in which case the name "Low%" would still be perfectly fitting. This case has already become fine with the explicit naming of the subcategories as "14 captures" and "15 captures"
I don't think we need two non-Any% categories that are almost the same (WP and All Story Moons) with one of them having no runners at all. Instead, I'd prefer a category where you would have to play through the entire story: All story moons in order, getting your hat stolen by Klepto, and traversing the Moon cave.
On the Discord server, we seem to agree on this
You need to trigger Klepto first
100 star coin: Collect all 100 star coins in the Mushroom Kingdom. Probably on a file after Any%
Bone%: Unlock (Any%) and buy (9999 coins) the Skeleton Suit
All Achievements: 601 moons total
Dank%: Collect 420 moons
Dark Side Clear: Collect all Dark Side moons including Hint Art
All Red Doors: Collect all moons (and maybe all purples) in levels behind red doors, including Dark Side
All Minigames: Collect all moons from Koopa Freerunning, Bound Bowl, timed RC car, Jump Rope, Volleyball, Face Replica, and Tracewalking
All Souvenirs: Some purples
All Hats: 560 moons, ~4000 coins, Dark and Darker Side, a few purples
All 8bit: Collect all moons and purple coins from 8-bit sections, including note moons that contain 8bit notes. No Darker Side required
Low started achievements: Jumpless, Checkpointless, avoiding a lot of moon types, <1000 coins, <20 unique captures
No cap bounces: Bouncing on Cappy is banned. I.e. no more OP jumps
"Low%" is a general term for avoiding something while completing the goal, which can be low items, low coins, low jumps etc. Minimum captures, the category currently on the leaderboard, isn't the only low% category and should therefore get a more precise name imo. If other low% categories like e.g. Jumpless ever get added, "Low%" as a title for minimum captures would definitely become inaccurate, and it already isn't ideal - so please change that up
Boss hurts drop coins, kills don't... or do they?
Can we add Madame Broodal to that one, making it all story moons and fights?
Actually, I'd associate "full story" with including Klepto and Moon Cave. OpieOP
Being discussed; since timing ends with the escape cutscene we say you wouldn't have to. I recommend save files, people say one would know whether or not they would have failed the trick and read the score accordingly
