I am voting yes.

• To keep competitiveness in the category.
• To decrease any chance of someone watching the WR run and say, oh my god I'm not going to attemp.
• To avoid burnout for runners that do want to continue to grind the Any% category, NME is a viable and more, repeatable run so to speak.

And I was all exciting thinking that all runs has to be Hell run now. LOL

Classic has different mechanics, and different stats for monsters. It is an entirely different game. Drop rates are different as well.

As for the map, it says no pre-generated and no modifications.

Overlay isn't a mod, it just reads data and displays it. I'm sure it can be a separate program and show you the map as a different program, and that would not be against the current rules.

And that is why we need clear rules.

@LaV

There is nothing in the rule set currently against using a map hack overlay either.

I honestly believe there should be clear rules, to make things more consistent.

I am all against it, it breaks the spirit of the game.

If you look at the left side of the screen, this is Diablo 2 LOD speedrun page, there's a picture of the Diablo 2 LOD box, at the top of your screen, is speedrun.com/d2lod/forum.

Classic has it's place, and you can do Classic%, with Conversion as part of a Classic%+ category.

But I don't agree on allowing that into D2 LOD Any%. It really breaks the of the run. Progressing past a difficulty, then double backing to kill Baal, just doesn't make sense to me at all.

Normal Baal should be a requirement before going into NM, and NM Baal before going into Hell.

As a viewer, I don't like this at all. It breaks the spirit of the game.

This speedrun leaderboard is for Diablo 2 LOD, not D2 Classic.

even the website address is speedrun.com/d2lod.

We have a Google Spreadsheet to keep track of weird challenge runs you might want to attempt and challenge others with. LINK : https://goo.gl/2JQxtY

To start, donnchadh has submitted The Unfamiliar Run.

You guys are welcome to submit any type of runs you'd like, with a distinct rule set. reply here or message me here/discord.

Lots of ideas on Discord, but not many has submitted runs yet, or I guess, completed their run? haha

mike, i hope you give it a shot, 10 is very easy to get into to warm yourself back up to the game.

oh I'm in if you guys want to hang out and race and what not.

There are interest whenever this game is brought up in the RPGLB Discord, but I don't think anyone else has tried to get this marathon safe yet.

My only idea so far is to scrap the whole 1 run complete idea, just a Any% completion, so if you have to go back a few times into tower, and then complete it. I think that way, might be able to get a run down to like 4~5 hours maybe?

a race of that during a marathon would be absolute chaos.

I don't think anyone else other than the dude who has a run posted runs it.

It is such a tough game to get runs going, D_Money on Twitch used to run it, but just can't finish a run.

I've been thinking of ways this can be marathon safe and get it submitted to something like RPGLB, but the RNG is just so punishing.

First, he creates a shit storm by deleting all his runs. Then now he creates another shit storm trying to revamp volunteered verfication so the community doesn't get any misinformation.

I'm going to go back to listening to Crazy Dog on loop for some sanity.

Slimo, will you tackle other classes ? Lol

I'd like to point out that the OP of this thread, who was a 53.27 7 months ago, is now on an amazing run in the current tournament.

Each person runs all classes as a race? .. on WR pace that's like 13 hours? ... Hardcore?

You 'could' in theory just add another sub class - Successful -> (Yes /No) in the filters... so we can see 'failed' runs.

I am now super intriged in running a necro pacifist...

Thanks Teo!