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ChrossChrono4 years ago

Hi Andy,

Thank you for responding to the concerns put forward in the community post, we appreciate your reply, however, we would like to reiterate some points.

In regards to you not being aware of any issues before today, we would again suggest to you, as we believe others have previously, to join the Street Fighter 2 discord.

There has been extensive discussion of your moderation of the boards in there over the last few weeks, and your presence in the discord would have informed you of some growing concerns, and allowed you to participate in friendly and constructive debate.

In regards to the various steps you have taken to, in effect, keep your speed-runs hidden from the community - deleting the VODs on your twitch channel after you broadcast, using generic stream titles such as 'Street Fighter II', deleting previous times from the SRC boards, and not submitting your WR times for verification - they are indeed your content.

What we would ask though, Andy, is in regard to the spirit of the rules and what's best for the community. You are the moderator, you should be behaving in a way generally seen as ideal. Everything you do is anti-community, seemingly entirely focussed around yourself and your twitch chat.

Users are complaining they don't know what the 'real' WR is, because you are not submitting runs. There is no sense of fair play with you Andy, you seem interested only in creating a situation satisfying to yourself, even if it is at the expense of the community.

We would like to draw your attention to the following site rule, in regards to this: 'Users moderating games will be held to a higher standard of behavior than normal users for on-site and off-site conduct. If controversy and drama arises frequently from a user's conduct, site staff may remove the user from moderation.'

You should consider, honestly, if you are complying with the spirit of this rule.

In regards to your statement that you will 'consider reaching out to Slowpoke', we would also like to draw your attention to the following site rule: 'Leaderboards should be viewed as owned by the community and curated by the moderators. A user who requests a leader board does not own the leader board.'

This Andy, we feel, is an issue you fail to understand and appreciate. It is not for you to tell us what you will consider doing, it is for us, the community, to tell you what we would like to happen, and for you to facilitate it.

As well as the above issues with your behavior, you are currently the only moderator for Street Fighter 2: Champion Edition, Super Street Fighter 2, and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo. In addition, one of the moderators for Street Fighter 2 Turbo: Hyper Fighting, was last active over 2 years ago.

The community feels that this situation is not acceptable, and should be addressed, therefore, we should decide on the appointment of additional members to the moderation team. This is not your decision, please understand this. As per the site rules, this is our decision, the community. Simply adding Slowpoke as a mod, entirely as your decision is not sufficient, especially as you have stated you'd be doing most of the work anyway.

We are requesting some genuine community input, not you making what you consider to be the minimum concessions necessary to put the matter to bed without anything really changing.

You say yourself in your reply - 'I listened and gave the community what they wanted.' so I assume there will be no problem doing so again.

In regards to you adding the Extra Speed category because it seemed perfectly sensible to you – we would again request that you consult the community before you make changes, and not after, allowing for discussion.

You also said 'I have done absolutely nothing wrong or against the rules.', but we feel this represents a lack of understanding of what the rules actually are.

As well as the above examples, we would also like to draw your attention to the following SRC rule - 'The users moderating a game should represent the consensus of the players of the game. If it is evident that moderators are not representing consensus among runners, site staff may change moderation.'

The very fact that we are having these issues, is surely evidence enough that, at the moment, you do not represent the consensus of the players of the game. As the extensive discussion in the discord over the last week or so shows, that this is the case.

Finally, Andy, we would again remind you that these are the views of the Street Fighter 2 community, and therefore your comments, seemingly aimed at individuals who you consider to have 'gone over your head', as well as disparaging remarks such as accusing people of disrespect and unprofessionalism, are not acceptable.

They were acting on behalf of, with the permission of and with the full support of the community. And we know ourselves, from interactions we have had with both DustyTokyo and Dwednesday, that they are people of integrity and valued members of the community, simply doing their job as moderators of the Street Fighter discord, and we hope you can refrain from any further comments regarding their conduct.

We'd like to thank you for listening to our concerns, but would remind you, we are informing you of the issues we feel need addressing, and would like you to do so as soon as possible, these issues will not go away, and you can not, as you may be able to do on twitch, put us in emote only mode.

We look forward to your considered response.

  • The Street Fighter 2 community.
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