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discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon4 months ago

(not that new since I recommended similar things a few years back, just fleshing them out more)

Damageless - Complete a run without taking any damage. "Damage" would just be whenever the yellow border surrounds the germ (so soap/mouthwash would not count as damage). This one might be possible, the only part that I'm not sure about are the bloodstream sections since the macrophages constantly attack the germ. Damageless is most likely possible in Nelson & Dump-it, but trumpet & crumpet bloodstreams would be the most difficult as the B-cell glitch would still allow for macrophages to attack you, so a different strategy is needed there.

100% - Collect all of the bonuses in the Gain Entry/Lungs sections (bonuses in bloodstream spawn constantly at random intervals, so that section would play as normal). This type of run is possible and would probably add about 2-3 minutes to the any% time, mainly due to the GE sections having a lot of bonuses to collect. The only section that wouldn't change is Dump-it lungs, since there are no bonuses to collect there as far as I'm aware.

I think these categories could be interesting since both would require new strategies/routes to be implemented. I've considered bringing back the "Glitchless" category within any%, but the already existing glitches (besides resize glitch) don't save that much time compared to a glitchless run. If there's enough demand for these (really only 1 or 2 other people) then i'll add these categories

discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon5 months ago

Discovered this glitch earlier today while I was messing around with the play/loop/forward/back buttons in the flash player. Interesting glitch that could possibly save time but currently not sure.

To perform the glitch, once you finish any character's lung section, on the "Round 1 Gain Entry" screen, right click and click the "Back" button (alternatively right click and press the b key). Once you do this, the initial ruff cutscene will appear. It will appear as though the game went back to the 1st stage of nelson, but once you start the stage you'll notice that whatever particles were there (snot/tears/earwax) are all replaced with the spit and mouthwash from nelson!

Here's some things I found/noted while messing around with this glitch:

  • If done quick enough, this glitch can definitely save time in the ear since the spit is easy to move through compared to the earwax, saving some time from having to go around some groups of earwax. My best guess is it could save up to 5 seconds in the ear, however I haven't tested it enough to know for sure.

  • The glitch may save time in the eye, however it may make the stage more difficult since the spit has a bigger hitbox compared to the tears, and while it's easier to move through, it causes some normally tight sections to be virtually impossible to get through without tanking some slowdowns from the spit. The main time save in the eye would be the skip at the end since you can move through the spit quicker, but at that point I don't think you would be saving any time due to all the spit you had to run through earlier. I can also say pretty confidently that the glitch won't save any time in the nose since there aren't any skips in the nose anyway.

  • When trying this glitch at the end of the bloodstream sections, it seems to have no effect other than just taking longer to start each section since it forces the zoom in cutscene to play (which normally only happens at the start of each GE)

I'll add some more edits below if I find anything else interesting related to this glitch but in short: I think the glitch at best can probably save 5 seconds in the ear, which doesn't sound like much but is pretty significant when you're talking about a speedrun that's only slightly longer than 10 minutes. However, it does add some difficulty since you have to click the necessary buttons fairly quickly in order to save time.

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discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon5 months ago

Hi. Been a while since I posted here. Mainly was just busy with school (and other life things) and forgot about this game for over 2 years. Just here to post a small update since there's probably only 1 or 2 other people reading this anyway.

I recently got back into doing runs of this game and I was able to push my PB down to a 10:33. I'm not going to upload it though since I want to see if I can try and get a sub-10:30 (also didn't really like the quality of the run either). I think for this game, around 10:26-10:28 is probably the fastest a human can do it. The main thing that makes it extremely difficult though is soap RNG (especially in the eye & ear) killing a lot of runs for me, so a 10:26-10:28 would require basically perfect rng/movement in all of the GE sections and insanely good movement in the lungs (since I found that some lung sections like dump-it and trumpet can be very punishing if you don't have good movement). The fastest pace run I was able to get was a 10:30 going into the ear, so I think sub-10:30 is barely possible with good enough movement and RNG. My best guess is with a TAS, 10:25 is probably possible, but I haven't tried making one for this game so it's possible there's some undiscovered TAS-only glitch that saves a lot of time.

As for the leaderboards, I'll probably leave the category names the same since last time I updated those it hid all of the runs from the leaderboard so I had to manually update everyone's runs to the new categories. Maybe that was fixed recently but I don't want to take any risks, so for now "Web" will just be runs without the resize glitch (which is done by resizing the window of the game in flashpoint disabling collisions) and "Emulator" will be runs with the resize glitch.

Also updating the guide since some of the screenshots seem to not load properly anymore and some info is outdated. That's all for now, maybe expect a new world record soon!

discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon2 years ago

the archive.org version doesn't run correctly since it's on ruffle, and germinator doesn't like to work when it's not on adobe flash player

discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon2 years ago

So it looks like some time ago, the official website for fetch with ruff ruffman games was removed and was replaced by games from the team hamster spinoff. Thankfully all of the games on the original website were preserved on flashpoint, but now using web to play these games is impossible (well you can but on external sites that don't load the games properly). The original site was up at least on January 15 (last screenshot i have), but web runs are now officially dead. Might make some changes to the leaderboard in the future because of this.

jay_games piace questo
New York, USAApeirogon3 years ago

yw, just happened to check today after like a month lul.

discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon3 years ago

Edit: he's not streaming germinator anymore, he will stream it again when I get 10k channel points and redeem the choose another game reward. https://www.twitch.tv/baahblo

discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon3 years ago

(For context, "fast intro" is just what I call the skip at the beginning of the game where you remove the spit on the first stage)

While I was messing around with germinator, what I found is instead of right-clicking then moving your mouse to click the play button, you can instead right-click, then press p+enter really fast. This method doesn't require you to move your mouse over to the play button, which saves some time depending on how you do it. However, after you right-click you can't move your mouse, otherwise, it won't work. This is a difficult trick but is slightly faster for anyone who wants to go for the fastest starts. Here's a video of me showing how to do the trick (first I do the old way then I do the new way).

(volume is really low for some reason, just turn it up)

Hopefully this helps anyone who is following this game or anyone who might find this in the future

jay_games piace questo
New York, USAApeirogon3 years ago

i guess comments are a thing now

discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon3 years ago

Update: Found a way to do it but it affects your whole computer. Basically, it's just switching WASD to do what the arrow keys do

  1. Download AutoHotkey - https://www.autohotkey.com/download/ahk-install.exe

  2. Go to your desktop/laptop home screen, Right-click then hover over "New" and click AutoHotkey script

  3. Right-click the .ahk file that appears then click Edit Script

  4. Input the following: w::Up a::Left s::Down d::Right

  5. Save the file, then double-click the file (or right-click and click run script). WASD will now do what the arrow keys should do, and you should be able to play germinator while using WASD

  6. To disable it, go to the bottom right of your desktop where a green H should be, right-click that then click "Pause script" or "Exit".

NOTE: The regular arrow keys will still function the same as normal (so you'll have 2 sets of them I guess). Also, remember that this affects your entire pc so just know how to disable it. Also also, you can change these keybinds as well if you don't like WASD for some reason, Just change the WASD on the left to whatever you want for the corresponding arrow key. if it's not a letter, go to the AutoHotkey application and search for "list of keys"

discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon3 years ago

Edit: Method I posted here 2 days ago breaks the game for some reason. here's a video to disable the chrome auto-update, if none of them work let me know and I'll find another solution

Here's the older method for running flash games if you forgot or are new here: (do the above stuff after you did this)

discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon4 years ago

I didn't think so either but I guess going through the tear saves time over moving left and around. Plus these tears are harder to get through.

discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon4 years ago

Around the end of Trumpet eye, there is a section where you have to zig-zag around some tears to reach the end. There is a similar skip where at the last row, you can go around the left-most tear and save a couple of seconds. However, this new way is where you go in between 2 tears in the second row shown below https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389041691442806787/825878591383535637/Capture.PNG

This skip is quite risky, and once you perform it, will leave you with very little energy left. However, compared to the last skip, it saves about 2 seconds. It could save more but this would probably be what you save. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389041691442806787/825879714782642216/image0.PNG (Left is with new skip, right is with old skip)

Hopefully, this helps any runners out. Let me know if you have any improvements to this or thoughts about it.

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discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon4 years ago

Basically, throughout the whole run, you cannot take damage. "Damage" in this game would be any time where the germ is surrounded with a yellow outline and loses energy. So that means soap and mouthwash would not count as damage since you don't actually lose energy. Let me know if you would want this to become a category

This is the first WR, by NoiceName. In crumpet bloodstream he avoids the B-cells and macrophages in the beginning but gets hit by them later which could mean that damageless is possible.

discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon4 years ago

This is the best route I could come up with. don't know if there is a faster one

MeesterTweester piace questo
discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon4 years ago

Here is the crumpet map https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381802602238705667/804454034558812210/crumpet.PNG

Here is the route https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381802602238705667/804454058698080346/crumpetroute.PNG

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discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon4 years ago

Yeah, there is a glitch where if you hold up and right on any bloodstream the B-cells will shoot above you instead of at you. I think it's because when you hold up and right there's a little part of the germ that goes off the screen and the b-cells think you are higher than where you actually are (I think?)

discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon4 years ago

Here is the updated trumpet map (finally, the clusters on the right might be a little off though) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548921197916585984/803764191043256330/trumpet.PNG

Here is the route https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548921197916585984/803764359728988211/trumpet2.PNG

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discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon4 years ago

I think where he got the best time save was towards the end since there is still no route for the crumpet and trumpet lungs (Sorry for procrastinating on that, will try to get it soon for real this time).

MeesterTweester piace questo
discussione: Germinator
New York, USAApeirogon4 years ago

It could be accepted, the thing is though games shorter than 10 minutes with regular play don't get accepted (at least as far as i'm aware)

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