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GermanyAftermathRV6 years ago

Well if you woulve read my last Wall of text youd know i made a compeling argument FOR RTA not against it.

In any case, now im kinda just convinced that you are a little bit lazy.

GermanyAftermathRV6 years ago

Nice, we merged the difficulties, i think we are the only community where difficulties matter that actualyl did that

Why tho

I mean not only do i feel like our leader bords are even more cluttered, now theres no point in running NG+ on aces, which is the only reason why NG+ evne matters, because you have no way to select aces on NG.

Its also disheartening to see a easy record above me, to be fair, i know i can do better within a day if i switch to easy because my ACe Sum of best is already better, but seriously? this is weird.

GermanyAftermathRV6 years ago

I cant seem to create new threads, so im posting it here because of the subject matter being related:

Hello!

I just had a small idea

how about, during full game runs as well as on the leaderboard we do this , and with that, solve the RTA vs IGT debate as well as make sure that we can optimize and save time even on the most boring of all missions:

  1. we adjust our overlay so the score can be seen, this allows the mods to see how much score we have, and how much we need on autoscrollers
  2. Once we reach the minimum required points, we split, then pause the split
  3. later when we submit: we tell the mod where the split occured in the vod, this way he can verify
  4. if you die: reset the split, start the mission again (but you shouldnt)

This helps with optimizing autoscrollers (especially resupplying for time gain which i do a lot when i try to break my score records) and actually making them about skill and routing, as well as with the run's pace. I would easily adopt this and if i would be the only player playing this game, this is prolly how i would time in the future.

What are your thoughts?

GermanyAftermathRV6 years ago

IN mission 19 you cannot resupply - what even rae you on about? it would be restarting at checkpoint, its Farbanti, in specific where resupplying helps you on ACE difficulty: So you can take air to ship missiles, sink the fleet and the AC10s, and then resupply shortly Before SOL squad pops up to take out the EML for easy quickkills.

Your reasoning repeated does not make for a stronger argument - its not a lot of time that you have to take considering if you run for RTA you can make a snap shot screenshot after every mission or you just star tthe run at the flight time total recorded, and then end it there, for easy quick maths.

its not a 5+ hour run, its barely a 4+ hour run with sub 4 hour being archievable and rather easy.

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GermanyAftermathRV6 years ago

it does, thanks @solid

@Velo my mistake, i shouldve prolly mentioned that

GermanyAftermathRV6 years ago

4:You can be much faster by sticking close to mothergoose and shooting specifically rockets at any APPROACHING UAV, my PB differs from my worst deathless timing by almost 3 minutes. Everything else is not on a timer, you can be significantly faster by finishing the objectives faster, i recommend trying a bomber - theres even alternative dialogue when youre fast 6: autoscroller 7: First contact is NOT an autoscroller: he goes from before: "im a bit excited" (first missile hit)" to "yo mihaly we have to break off" instantly if you hit a singular EML or 2 EML on ace - try it, its actualyl way faster - the fighting sequence is scripted but not an autoscroller, so even on NG youd know eventually where he will fly and how you can land fast rockets for easy hits. 8: 5 min autoscroller into killing 20 convoy trucks, can be optimized with routing quite a bit, the only section of the run that is also a tad RNG; because the poping in of your ground targets can happen early or very late so your lockon will be affected but not more then 5-6 seconds of timeloss tbh. 10: Saves a lot of time on the fight iwth the drone, the plane flies faster if you kill off all SAM's fast, so can save a minute there , phase 2 is non routed but flies with standart mihaly pattern ( immelman into sharp turn into chicken into flying into the sun) so can be easily predicted. 11: auto scroller 12: Nope, also a mission that has huge time disparity between my best and my worst. Hint: the first phase can be minmaxed, some kills on some enemies spawn other waves, some dont, learn those, route em, win 3-6 minutes, 2nd phase is timing based tho, but only 3 or so minutes. i actually failed this one here so its not like its unfailable, setting it up fast actually requires active play. 15: autoscroller, can save massive amounts of times by instantly finding mihaly and instagibbing him once the SOL Squad spawns, with either 2 EMLs or 3 on ace (he has 3 phases, tho, so you cant oneshot him even tho one is technically enough, hit him once before cyclope goes down, while he chases cyclope to make him go dow nfaster and afterwards, and the win is yours, the last hit only is require don ace if you dont hit any rockets, on any other difficulty, 2 shots are enough to win it) 19: autoscroller but only the first 7 minutes ,o n Ace my PB is still 15, and on easy my PB is 9, the arsenal bird has some timing segments to it yes but its not actually a full on autoscroller. The crushing lights segment where count "wishes" the shield away is the only interruption in an otherwise, very precise and not even that easy bossfight (always gets close on ace, i restart on checkpoint on principle.)

The chatter decieves you Velocikitty, you can save tons of time, the only actual non skipable autoscrollers are:

6,8(phase 1), 10, 11,15,19 and those come with the caveates i mentioned.

I can make you a full list of possible time saves and how much you can optimize what level if you wish, and what split you can improve where and which trigger you can skip how its not actually that hard, but even before you ask, yes, flying at 2k+ velocity permanently with a 8x ground missile Multirole fighter in 14 is the biggest timesave, unless you manage to fly 3k+ with the X02 permanently but i doubt thats possible, 14 is deffo the god of all time saves and optimization.

Heres a good argument for RTA THO:

to get back on topic, i sometimes use different planes and different loadouts, and those are not partof the IGT even tho it takes me a few sec to set up ( i use them besides that) , plus going back to airfiled for resupplies is also not added to IGT, both being important to your pace,atleast in my opinion, because even tho i lose 20 seconds on choosing another bird and going back twice, i always fly a save 11 - its never longer then 15:00:00 tho.

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GermanyAftermathRV6 years ago

Actually only part of those missions are timer based, for example, its easyto believe that 03 is a timer based mission but if you just break off attacking the arsenal bird at all and focus on shooting down drones as fast as you can you will have a much faster time ,because the event that causes the Arsenal bird to go invulnerable still happens, but new drones dont actually spawn past that point.

This counts for many missions, 16 is another one: the car stops on multiple occasions but if you instantly ID the troops on the road it continues faster, those are just two examples.

all fights against SOL can be accelerated by hitting early hits with an railgun or quick long range missiles, the damage isnt completely gated, only phased,aside from the timermissions wher etheres an literal timer, you can have timesaves almost everywhere.

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GermanyAftermathRV6 years ago

dont know if both or either actually works on PC, same for the new profile stuff, never found the option anyhow, maybe im just stupid tho.

GermanyAftermathRV6 years ago

Has anyone actually found out how to restart your game file completely and do a new game run? cuz i havent yet.

GermanyAftermathRV6 years ago

The problem with the autoscrollers is completely circumvented because if you die in them and restart from checkpoiint, the mission timer is also added.

IGT will allow me to go take a piss between missions really quick, oh jeez, i think that might not be fair ,but im already doing that with hitting pause between missions on a screen that makes it easy to spot whetever or not i splice - i suppose IGT would also solve this issue completely.

(also when is my new run getting approved healbus pls)

Theyre not that long, you only have 20 missions, you could start the vod at "total flight time," change to main menu, restart campaign, do your rnu, and end it afterwards on "total flight time" , that way you can prove you havent spliced, while you can also easily track how much time you spend.

btw

offtopic but what file do i have to remove from my computer to restartthe entire game for a NG run?

AS for the bombers adding random talk: Its if the previous conversation has progressed past a certain point, If youre f aster they dont add it in.

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