Is cheating okay ?
8 years ago
France

When training for the run or searching glitches, OOBs, etc... the console commands are often useful and make good tools to work with. But to which extend those "tools" can be applied to a run ?

I believe that two things can be considered cheating a be prohibited :

  • using cheats (of course)
  • modifying the internal properties of the game via other commands or file corruption.

I'm going to talk about the sniper rifle. It has a strong damage modifier on the zoom, so we better zoom at every shot for a maximum efficiency. But it bothers me a lot that the sniper has a double zoom, it makes it harder to de-zoom in urgent situations (like an elite dodging and leaving off the lens)

Therefore, I allowed myself to change the key bindings a little bit. I have two "zoom" button :

  • on "shift" (I usualy fire with "shift") : fov 0 | fire | onrelease stopfire | fov 0
  • on "middlemouse" : fov 0

so that when I fire a weapon it zooms and dezooms automatically to benefit the damage modifier. I need the second button for the sniper, that won't de-zoom but will go to zoom x20. By pressing quicky the middle mouse it goes back to normal.

Considering I only changed the bindings, that wouldn't be considered has cheating imo. Still, you can't do it via the game menu and have to use the command, so it may be considered cheating then. So ?

To this extend, why not deactivate the double zoom with "set dc17msniper numzoomfovs 2". It would solve the problem and simplify the playthrough, but would be considered cheating.

Are any of these techniques ok ?

Modificato da l'autore 8 years ago
France

That's also my point but if you actually use "fov 0 | fire | onrelease stopfire | fov 0" it appears on screen just like you use your weapon normally, but it deals 1.75x damage. Noscope style. While I agree on the principle to bind what you want, the technique looks like a game abuse, because you are not supposed to noscope enemies. So we should all agree or reject this one trick.

Modificato da l'autore 8 years ago
Missouri, USA
Your_Solution
He/Him, They/Them
8 years ago

I think that anything not in the menu as a keybinding shouldn't be allowed.

ThinksTheClown piace questo
France

"fov 0" and "fire" are both bindalbe via the menu, but you can't bind them to the same key in the way I did. So I understand we won't use the "fov 0 | fire | onrelease stopfire | fov 0 " technique. OK

France

By the way it's easy to learn to quickly tap on fov0 fire fov0 fov0 (piano style), to have the same result. When on zoom the sniper is difficult for the aiming of moving targets, so it's good to bypass the zoom this way. You can bind fov0 to a second button via the menu (yes, this is legit) to make it even easier.

Modificato da l'autore 8 years ago
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