watch the video. Is this a new two frame wall jump setup, and is it more consistent? You sprint and hit the pipe how I did it in the video, you get the two koopas, then do the walljump, but I'm not sure if it is a new 2 frame setup.

@youtubeman06 You would be able to tell if you backwards jumped at the pipe and go turned around.

for some reason i can't hit the pixel when backwards jumping.

@youtubeman06 You aren't jumping right then.

i finally backwards jumped and Mario turned around

Ok, two frame setup. I think bumping in the wall loses more time than normal two frame setup, which is pretty east

@KingOf_JonnyBoy No, it's faster than normal two frame setup Does a 1 frame setup even exist? I've never encountered one Btw the one frame jump at the beginning of the room also gives a 2 frame setup, proof in darbian's clip of "WHY MAN WHY" Even without hopping off the coop

@Lul_ecks_dee that only happens if your turnaround is weird and manipulate s you subpixel like normal two frame setup.