I've been speedrunning normal and am disappointed to see it gone from the categories. Does anybody (Trance?) that has tried both have any input? I'm curious as to whether the Marguerite fight is faster on normal with the flamethrower or without it. I seemed to get a much better fight than the record holder with it, although I obviously had to put it together first. Seems like there is some room for optimization.

just submit your time to the easy board or stop running normal because its dumb lol

but you can do whatever you want tbh just have fun

I think it's better normal gets removed. It's just a slower version of easy. Forced to pick up more heals for the sake of time. No reason to have normal.

A Solution would be to just have Any% and Any% Madhouse. That way normal runs can just be filed under Any%

Its for the best, like I said ive tried normal and easy, and with normal it really is just a case of grabbing some extra ammo and a heal or two. Easy/Madhouse all the way

For the Consoles vs PC, the console runners are a little handicaped because of the sensitivity when you view objects. For example after the fight vs Jack Baker in the garage when you go up the ladder and have to pick up the ox statuette in the picture frame it takes longer on the consoles to turn the picture around because of the sensitivity, i already used the highest possible sensitivity on my runs on the PS4 and it makes like almost no difference at all compared to the lowest sensitivity. And also on the puzzles, the sensitivity on the consoles is pretty low and you cant turn up like a "Object Viewing Sensitivity" in the options. At the end you maybe lose about 10-20 seconds because of the low sensitivity against PC runners. I dont want a "free" world record or something, just saying this so everyone knows.

In terms of console/PC, I change what I said previously about merging the two as i noted before. They should be kept separate for a variety of reasons, turning speed not being one of them. We've already made strides with OOB clips and if they do prove to be a timesave they aren't possible on console; and from what we've seen of the lucas video skip I can't replicate it on PC, so if a glitch like that is console only then another difference for separation.

When it comes down to controller and sensitivity, as I've said before consoles are perfectly capable of using a keyboard and mouse

@XTerminator You cannot use Mouse and Keyboard to play on PS4 you can connect them and chat etc, only a few games support Keyboard and Mouse Final Fantasy XIV for example, imagine someone playing games like CoD or Battlefield with a Mouse and Keyboard on PS4 he would be pretty OP and its almost like cheating.

I'm not sure what Cyberdemon531 has a problem with having separate categories for console and PC, since they are different versions of the game. Not only that, but this is a common practice in almost every single game. Dark Souls, for example, has an Xbox exclusive glitch that cuts the run down in half, but they aren't placed in the same category. Their is nothing wrong with having a PC NG and a Console NG, just like their is nothing wrong with having arbitrary categories like Melee only.