The OOB category got renamed in Glitched so I think we need some rules on what is allowed in the regular category and what isn't. As it stands glitched doesn't mean much since the main category still allows glitches like stair skating.
There's a note in the rules that state "Use of out of bounds (OoB) and item duplication is allowed."
I meant it as what's allowed in the main category. I take it that glitched would allow any glitch but what kind of glitches are allowed in the main category is unclear.
Every glitch is bad game development, if games were coded perfectly there would be no glitch to be found.
I still dont see this as a glitch, they just used the same animation of movement when you aim on the flat floor in the stairs. Its lack of animation, not a fault in the game. They can patch the OOB and the item duplication without adding or changing nothing in game, but to fix the stairskating they would have to create a new animation.
In the same way, OOB is a lack of collision checks, and they would need to add it in to fix the game, the fact that you don't see the collision wall doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
I edited the rules for the other main categories to clarify that stair skating/gliding is allowed, but that OoB and item duplication is banned.
How would airwalking be classified? Is the main category meant to be played as intended without skips or sequence breaks?
The rules for the main categories specifically mention OoB and item duplication being banned. Airwalking is OoB.
No matter what way you describe it, Stairskating IS an animation glitch. However not only is it minor, but it's honestly unavoidable in some situations. Banning stairskating would be like saying you aren't allowed to aim on stairs. I would however admit that it isn't fun.. lol
The animation performs the way it's intended to perform, we're just abusing it. There's no malfunction there, we're just taking advantage of one of the effects of aiming your gun.
Just like how Claire technically moves faster in caution because she'll stumble ahead ever so slightly.
Would you consider someone that's in caution as Claire glitching the game? Probably not.
Same with the aiming animation on stairs. Is it a glitch? No. Is it abuse? Yes.
A glitch is a programming quirk. Like the item duplication. An issue with the game code. The animations, however, function the way they're supposed to. We're just terrible people and abuse it.
I don't see it getting patched out or considered an issue by Capcom. Meanwhile if they patch anything, I would think it'd be item duplication (like how they fixed a similar issue with the HD remaster of REmake 1) or... you-know-what. :P
Airwalking is also abusing an animation and I wouldn't consider it OOB but I can see the argument for it, anyway that's not the point of the thread, I don't really care about what is permitted and what isn't as long as we know; speedrunning is made of arbitrary rules so everyone needs to know what is accepted in any given category. On that topic, would a sequence break or skip be allowed in the main category? From the previous answers I would assume not but I just want to be sure.
Airwalking is exploiting an actual glitch in the animation system though, if not more-so a Y coordinate flaw in the coding. When most people talk airwalking, they talk about using it to go out of bounds. Either way, it's banned in the non-glitched category.
What sequence breaks are you talking about? You're correct, it would probably be banned, but go ahead and give an example so I know we're on the same page.
Give some time and everything will be better, game has only 10 days of release, the board have already been changed 3 or 4 times in the past week and may not look like, but the amount of runs to verify is huge.
A sequence break is just accessing an area before it was intended, right now we achieve that through OOB but let's say a way was found to use any key in any door so that you could access locked areas before the G1 fight. That's just the first thing that came to mind but I guess you get what I mean.
Glitched meaning the item duping and the OoBs mainly. Stair skating is a very minor glitch and can be done in the main category
Stairskating isn't really a glitch. As Toast said, everything is working as intended animation wise they just never expected players to exploit the aiming animation taking priority over the slower walking animation when going up stairs.
Whereas for air walking and OOB, floating in mid-air or walking through boundaries / walls is pretty notable in terms of a 'what is banned' note.
The distinction is pretty clearly there.
