"Pizza is not a cheater" so someone else must used his name before... now i get! every time he cheated it was someone else! why you dont say it from the start? so he is the whipping boy! and you have of cause proof for that! or is it still in the production?
i am no longer being removed for saying the cheater is a cheater? then you must speak with starsmiley! she wrote it was for it mainly!
good we have AltRblx to make a new truth where proofs were ignored to get the only truth he want!
come on, ignore that both runs were made on the same day and the same cheat was used in both runs!
lets forget, that both runs are still rejected for the same cheat reasons since 2019!
lets forget the rng mod cheater thing, it was someone else! the cheater would never cheat!
"And deleting shitstorms is normal on this Server, was already done since years!" i better should forget that i wrote this! because you are here since years , visit massiv all payday 2 sites here and dont forget the big mod xp!
We isolated the factor that you guys keep insisting on (mask-up interaction being finished before host can) and have very reliably produced evidence that, once again, if the host lags enough, as very clearly shown in the run you guys keep claiming was cheated, it will desync the clients from the host, allowing the clients to execute actions seemingly faster than usual.
Except that it doesn't work like that, since you replaced it with something else to reproduce this event without having all the details of its nature. If you isolate a factor, you must remove it without adding anything else. You therefore have no certainty of having your identical parameters with the exception of one, which would have been removed
This is equal to saying your experiment is worthless because I said so.
Absolutely not since we based ourselves on a fact which is therefore a starting hypothesis for you and it is you who sought to experiment on the subject.
Also, on another note, why go after only pizza for this? Your screenshot clearly shows everyone else is already masked up, and highlights everyone but pizza even.
I don't comment this topic. I just question the name that was given "experimentation".
With that, I leave you. I hope you don't spend too much time scrutinizing the slightest messages in this "table tennis" thread. ^^
i am no longer being removed for saying the cheater is a cheater? then you must speak with starsmiley! she wrote it was for it mainly!
Dear nasuper, learn to read.
furthermore... i guess this means now "forget what was written before that word"!
and that i already wrote about it and proofed them wrong, must also be forget as you like it!
moderators... aha, she mean the mod farmers! no, they told me nothing! only zombie was writing something! and this was after the removal...
every other... what are these words in numbers? maybe 9? and the others just dont count, because they didnt had the same opinion! whats wrong with them?
has proven... did starsmiley get other proof videos? the ones i get show the cheater failing what he wanted to proof!
Vile and inappropriate behaviour. If I was nasuper, I would be ashamed.
ashamed of what? i fight for my right with the proof and the truth by my side! that you run away instead of fighting makes you weak! what a behaviour of you Walgrey i would be ashamed... Thanks MetroLine ! it has a reason why i rewrote the rules 2 years ago, what about the mods before were planning since 2017 without doing!
Alright then, in an attempt to make what very likely has happened as clear as possible, let's test something that closely resembles what can be seen in the Co-Op run.
We will focus only on the lag that you can clearly see in the loading screen in davids video, where his loading screen appears frozen. In order to achieve this I use a script that sends SIGSTOP to the game thread and then waits a set amount of time before sending SIGCONT.
This is host POV with a 3s freeze in the loading screen: youtu.be/CDlHoNEJFgI
Here is the client POV: youtu.be/jmwiTnV-248
As you can see, seeker is already shooting (meaning mask up interaction, mask up animation and weapon animation complete) right as I come out of black screen at approximately 1.5s IGT, whereas I finish my mask up interaction at 2s IGT as usual. In seekers POV you can see that he is also finished with his mask up interaction at 2s on his IGT, while I am not masking up despite my mask up interaction seemingly being completed. He shoots at 4.5s local IGT, which corresponds to 1.5s host IGT because of the 3s freeze.
So let's dial back the freeze time and slow down the video, here is host POV with a 1s freeze in the loading screen: youtu.be/ucnpvL7srzE
And here is the corresponding client POV: youtu.be/eYMUPPHIiWw
You can very clearly see that seeker has just finished his mask up interaction and is in the process of masking up as I come out of black screen, he is very unsurprisingly masking up around 1s ahead of me, and naturally both our IGTs hit 2s as we finish our mask up interaction but they are desynced by about 1s. You can easily see this discrepancy by looking at the millisecond timer (RTA) that I added.
Now before you start going off about this, the reason the RTA is not exactly 1s ahead of IGT is because the RTA timer is not started exactly at the same time the IGT timer is started (as this is rather nontrivial in Payday 2 and I couldn't be bothered), but this is completely irrelevant here. Also keep in mind that there is a considerable delay between the IGT increasing and a frame actually making it out of the GPU. Frame present times are not consistent in any game, especially not in payday 2, and the most recent value for IGT might not make it into a frame as well as the need for the video capture to capture that exact frame (and let's not get into video compression and frame reordering). You can very nicely see this in action here in the slowed down video because the on screen IGT isn't very smooth, but I digress this tangent is going nowhere.
Now my question to you is, what do you not understand about this?
If this is some sort of language barrier issue feel free to answer in german, or hell, Awake can do it in french if he likes. I am genuinely open to hearing your arguments, I really am, but all you have done so far is throw a tantrum, repeat the same incorrect reasoning over and over again and bring up unrelated things.
