Thanks a bunch, but yes easy mistakes to make there are a tonne of submissions I’m sure!

Yeah that’s what I’m getting at, so change those times from PAL to NTSC, and for all future submissions on this platform. Surprised no one caught it to be honest

I’m gonna go again sorry, but 8-3 and 8-4 also show the classic signs of an NTSC run. He has to slow down to not get a 3 in 8-3, when if you go full speed in PAL, you always get a 4. And in 8-4 he does the first stair jump the NTSC way, which is not possible in PAL. It would be nice to see these times put off the PAL leaderboard as they are not intact PAL, but rather NTSC

Just a quick addition, 8-2 is also not how PAL runs, he does the NTSC jump up the stairs which is not possible in PAL.

So I’ve just come back after a long break I find two new times at the top of the PAL leaderboard. I noticed they were done in the NES classic, and if you watch the runs it can be seen that it is not in fact the PAL version. It is NTSC. The giveaways are the music is slower than real PAL and that at the end of 4-1, the top player gets a 40 on the timer, when in real PAL you always get a 41 and receive a firework. I urge the mods to check this out and hopefully make a decision on how to run the leaderboard with the NES classic PAL version, which again, is not the real PAL version. Cheers

So I’ve just been messing about with the regular fpg, and your setup works beautifully. I would say the hardest part is getting the first jump off the stairs, but if you get that right, and believe me it’s pretty easy, the rest is almost free. There seems to be tonnes of leeway with the right walk and jump once your on the ground, or maybe it’s just me. I had no idea it would be so consistent. I don’t think I’ll be trying full fpg anytime soon but maybe, has anyone actually done it yet real time, and is there no other setup at all that we know of? Hey you never know I’ll give it a shot for a wee while.

Thanks a lot, PAL can be a lot of fun sometimes. 4:54 here I come... in like 10 years time. Yeah I’ve seen Josh’s vids on PAL before, it seems he is the top of the tree when it comes to it, I’ll take some notes and get on it.

Got a setup for the normal fpg as well? The one I see others doing relatively easily on PAL. Thanks for that btw, I had no idea it was THAT difficult

Yeah I knew about that one, easy timesave. But does anyone have a consistent setup for fpg or even full fpg I could try. I know full fpg is pretty much TAS only but could give both of them a shot, I know that JoshKeys does fpg in his 5m11, seems not bad to give a shot, except I’ll meed a setup

Those to 5:11s are within reach for those in PAL, just might be good to find some new PAL only timesaves or something, TASsers... hint hint, for these runs

Out of interest, over an any% run of the same caliber, how much time does NTSC save over PAL? Plus would anyone be up to doing some reasearch on PAL to find some strats that may only be possible on PAL due to physics? Could make the runs more interesting.

So i read that in PAL, fast accel. does not work as it is faster to run on the ground, does this mean you'll lose less frames in PAL if you hit the bottom block of the flagpole compared to NTSC? Does this also mean in PAL, in more levels is it not a time loss to hit the bottom block instead of the top. Interested as i run PAL

Never mind, i do not believe it is slower, i just checked another splits file i have for this game, turns out i got a 6:37 pb off camera, so it musnt be any slower. I must just not be playing well enough as i was!

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Ok, so i do care a little about being recognised but i would rather see the whole of PAL smb1 be more recognised, it is still fun no matter what version you run, but seeing as i run PAL i am starting to get more competitive. The top time in PAL, if it gets to a high enough standard, should be recognised with the top NTSC times, but that is not now, so us PAL runners will continue to wait and push the times down ourselves. I am in no way regarding all NTSC runners different to us PAL runners, it just might be nice be regarded on the same level as people running equal times on NTSC, 10 seconds faster or whatever it is.

To be honest it does not bother me PAL is slower, but thanks for letting me know about the jumps and reason it is slower other than it just running as 50 FPS. Ill stick to PAL as there are enough people running it to make it possible to watch and improve. Plus it might be somewhat easier to get the fastest PAL time!

Sure I’ll give it a whirl

Yeah, I’m playing the same as the record but not getting faster times, it’s not a bother really, but it interested me. I can just say I’m fastest in the world at PAL NBA jam!

In most PAL games, they are slower for speed running than the NTSC version, is this true for this game? I am having trouble trying to improve my time and was wondering how much slower it would be, if any slower at all. Cheers

I run the PAL version of this game as i live in the UK. I know there is an FPS difference which changes the strats for certain levels, but it also seems to change things such as the one frame goomba jump in 8-1 and the 1 frame jump in 8-4 room 2, which both seem arbitrarily easy. How many frames do you have to make these jumps in the PAL version as I recommend doing these strats to those on PAL as it eliminates a pipe jump in 8-1 and is just generally faster in 8-4. Cheers

I wish to submit a run for 24 exit and i am using PAL hardware is there any reason there is no way to select PAL fr the region or can it be added. Cheers