Another proof that Replay Channels can't be blindly trusted, "RetroLongplay" is currently running a Tool-Assisted Marathon right now on Twitch and they just ran TAS of Super Hang-On, Rad Mobile, OutRun Genesis, OutRun SMS, OutRunners Genesis, Virtua Racing, OutRun 2019, OutRun TG-19, OutRun Saturn and many more! Link: https://www.twitch.tv/retrolongplay

Gemma Euphoria is correct by the way, in the enhancements menu, there's an option called "Timing Fixes" in CannonBall! It's OFF by default!

While I do agree the Arcade cabinet offers more precision, the runs from Replay Burners (especially the Gear Gacha ones) are inhuman. Check them closely, you'll see, it's even more precise than what you just shared. Even moreso when you know it's from MAME and not using a real steering wheel like MID did. And AFB is 2 seconds if front of MID on Goal D... It looks 100% like a TAS run to me and Replay Burners declares half of their videos as TAS already.

Channels like Replay Burners and others (AL82, ...) are just hoarding faceless runs uploaded anonymously from sketchy accounts that no one knows.

If it's a YouTube channel with one single YouTuber or Twitch streamer with his own Speedrun dot com account it already seems a little more legit but I wouldn't trust any of these websites gathering runs from anonymous accounts for views.

Think about it, if you work so hard for so long to get a near-perfect run and a WR, you'd NEVER upload that on a sketchy channel like Replay Burners. You'd have a YT channel like MID does, who is a well-known die-hard OutRun fan.

I'll leave the final decision in the moderator's hands but, personally, I would not upload face-less mic-less videos [especially medal runs] unless, at the very least, they are from members of the community that we can interact with.

Guys,

One other thing, the runs made by "AFB" are not made by a real person, those are TAS. I made a video here with more explanation: Replay Burners is a channel filled with anonymous perfect runs made by TAS.

Gemma Euphoria should have the World Record for Goal A.

Actually I just tested the CannonBall version ( ) and... THEY DIDN'T FIX THE TIMER IN THAT VERSION EITHER... smh Here are my splits in that version: GOAL A SPLITS: Stage 1: 59s 650ms Stage 2: 1m 06s 590ms Stage 3: 1m 00s 620ms Stage 4: 1m 06s 780ms Stage 5: 53s 120ms SPLIT TOTAL: 5m 06s 760ms TOTAL SHOWN AT END SCREEN: 5m 25s 530ms

It's probably what has already been discovered but since I hadn't found anyone talking about it (even after a Google search) and saw everyone using the broken timer, I figured I was the first one to figure it out. It adds time to the run yes, but it's random between 15 to 20 seconds. The split times also seem inaccurate therefore I'm not sure if there's a solution to our problem, might as well keep it the way it is, Idk. It's good to know the 3DS and Switch versions are bug-free and thank you for letting me know about Cannonball, I didn't know that existed. I just tried it and it's FANTASTIC! Maybe we should have a separate leaderboard for that bug-free version?

Yeah I think we could use the regular "Time" column as split times and use that as main reference for the medals. I'd be happy to volunteer to recount everyone's splits.

Later on, we can check if there's a better way or we should make a separate leaderboard with the "Enhanced ROM" the guy is talking about in the article you shared ( http://www.ukvac.com/forum/fixing-bugs-in-out-runs-timing-system_topic338675.html ), although I'd like to know where that ROM can be found first.

Good evening OutRun Arcade runners & mods,

We have a big problem on our hands! I was playing Goal B and all my 5 stages (except 1) were under the minute mark but I was still getting a time of 5'10"710 and, because I was just done playing the PC Engine version where the clock is also broken, that's when I realized the OutRun Arcade timer is also completely random and broken!

Here are the splits for everyone's Goal B so you can better understand:

MasterSystemMarceau's GOAL B SPLITS: Stage 1: 59s250ms Stage 2: 59s210ms Stage 3: 58s280ms Stage 4: 1m01s250ms Stage 5: 52s560ms SUBTOTAL: 4m49s + 1550ms REAL TOTAL: 4m 50s 550ms TOTAL SHOWN ON SCREEN: 5m 10s 710ms (20s 160ms added by the game!)

turbogilman's GOAL B SPLITS: Stage 1: 58s250ms Stage 2: 1m00s260ms Stage 3: 58s280ms Stage 4: 1m05s280ms Stage 5: 51s030ms SUBTOTAL: 4m 52s + 1100ms REAL TOTAL: 4m 53s 100ms TOTAL SHOWN ON SCREEN: 5m 12s 150ms (19s 250ms added by the game!)

GemmaEuphoria's GOAL B SPLITS: Stage 1: 58s210ms Stage 2: 57s250ms Stage 3: 55s250ms Stage 4: 58s250ms Stage 5: 49s620ms SUBTOTAL: 4m 37s + 1580ms REAL TOTAL: 4m 38s 580ms TOTAL SHOWN ON SCREEN: 4m 54s 370ms (15s 790ms added by the game!)

kickasspancakes's GOAL B SPLITS: Stage 1: 59s250ms Stage 2: 56s260ms Stage 3: 56s280ms Stage 4: 57s230ms Stage 5: 48s950ms SUBTOTAL: 4m 36s + 1970ms REAL TOTAL: 4m 37s 970ms TOTAL SHOWN ON SCREEN: 4m 53s 890ms (15s 920ms added by the game!)

So, as you can see, the broken timer can add anywhere between 15s and 20s to anyone's run.

I can't believe that in -36 YEARS- nobody noticed this before!!! I know it's a lot of work but I believe everyone's run should be recounted if we want it to be fair. I also believe btrim is MIA and if anyone would like me to help, I'd be happy to join the mod team and do the recount for everyone.

Note that the PC Engine and Arcade versions of OutRun have a broken timer but the Genesis, Master System and Game Gear version do NOT.

Let me know what you guys think!

Marceau.

Oh awesome, I didn't know how to proceed! I just submitted the request. Many thanks!

Hello folks, I had requested Special Criminal Investigation (SMS) to be added as a new game and mentioned it was part of the Chase H.Q. series but that wasn't added. It is indeed Chase H.Q. II for Sega Master System (proof here: https://segaretro.org/Special_Criminal_Investigation). Can a global mod add Special Criminal Investigation to the Chase H.Q. series please? Only a global mod can do it. Thank you.