I don't think it's necessary - the Any% Damage-Less would be rejected from the Deathless category because it violates the rules posted for Deathless. Deathless rules don't mention glitches in the rules anywhere just that death warps and wrong warps are not allowed. As long as you view the rules it seems pretty clear to me but maybe it's confusing others? Or is the ambiguity between the glitched deathless and the any% damage-less? I could see someone holding the same record in glitched deathless and the new any% damage-less with the same run now.

Any excuse to play Rygar in different ways is a good idea to me!

Nice work thanks for sharing! I did this with one too with one of my obsolete NWW routes I could get sub 21:30 and I think I could bring it down a bit. I bet with some tweeks to the Tas you could do a sub 21 with this route but probably still dependent on good star drops at the end. Here is my run using that route:

I agree I see the same options. I posted here to see and get other RCR runners feedback. I'll check out what gets put on NES runners discord too as I'm ok with either (I'd lean towards a time adjust and keep it one board if it were up to me) but wanted to bring it up to be addressed/talked about with the RCR runners too since this seems to be a relatively new find...

Great Find - Joes strat seems the easiest to learn and just happens to be faster than anything I've been trying! Great job thanks for sharing!

It looks like what you're saying is the JP version is 2 seconds faster, which makes it an uneven playing field does it not? To keep it all on the same board why not just do something like a 2 second hadicap added to JP runs then it seems fair and square regardless of version? I guess what bothers me is if/as this board grows more runners there will be cases where where less than 2 seconds separates people and it won't at that point give a true ranking it will be a relative ranking unless everyone switches to JP version which essentially kills people who still use OG hardware and carts like myself. Maybe I'm in the minority on this but it does seem clear that the JP and US are not purely cosmetic differences with a clear advantage running JP version.

I've noticed the JP version being used recently in Will and yels' recent runs and new sauna category (All are amazing runs BTW). I thought I heard Yels or maybe it was someone else mention that the JP version is actually faster for menus and Roxy speech. If that is truly the case should JP have its own category? If it's faster by definition it's an advantage over all US runs using original hardware. If not and I'm wrong let me know. If there is a built in time save just by the version it doesn't seem like an apples to apples comparison for them to be on the same leaderboard. It doesn't seem to effect any times now, but if two times are close and on different versions your place on the board shouldn't be punished by the version you run should it?

The gameplay should be identical to JP vs US versions. Yes the music is different in a few screens but no other changes that I know of. You can see there are both US and JP runs on the leaderboard with no advantage/disadvantage between versions. The PAL version is a different story as you can jump farther and can't level up as much.

From my calculations airwalking in rosa valley can save up to 7 seconds (if very fast) I typically save like 3-4 seconds per airwalk there. The bottom bat bounce is fastest, followed by airwalking instead of bat skip, then top bat skip being slowest of bat skips for any%. I'd recommend practice the bottom bat skip not just because its fastest but it helps get a good feel for jumping/bouncing/walking to edges if you decide to pursue other Rygar categories.

Yeah the switch version is the right one for speedrunning. I agree it probably should be added unless there is some unknown advantage to using a switch I don't know of.

Ok sorry folks I think I just answered my own question. I've been using ALEX in 1 player for about the last 30 years. Didn't even occur to me that she talks different to RYAN! 😜

Hi Guys, Maybe a noob question here but on my actual cart and the ROM I have Roxy says, something like I'm slicks girls but I'm on your side, I noticed on some other runs it seems shorter and end with 'I owe her'. I'm wondering if there are different US releases or a trick to get her to say the shorter version?