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fil: Calico
Western Australia, Australiajosh_spooky3 years ago

Update on previous post.

Here is a video that seems to confirm that at least on Switch the distance of a Catapult is correlated with whether FSC is set to Party or Cafe. I attempted to replicate the warp exactly, please excuse the camera, I do not have a capture card and I bumped it which is clear when you watch the video.

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fil: Calico
Western Australia, Australiajosh_spooky3 years ago

Re:Catapults

I will try to post a video at some point but I have noticed that if I have the Forest Spirit Cat (FSC) set to party and I then do a catapult making sure to teleport as fast as possible (from the flower shop) I get considerably further catapults and FSC stays with me to shorten any running I have to do.

I have two theories as to why this may occur:

1 - The game is trying to teleport FSC with me which slows the game down and sends me further this may be the reason for why I am the only one to have reported this as I am also the only Switch player. Because the Switch is not as powerful as a PC (I don't understand computers enough to go into detail) the effects are greatly increased.

2 - The catapult/teleport potion is also accounting for animals at the cafe when it is teleporting you. Since FSC is at the cafe and will be teleported there, the game includes it's location when deciding where to place you down which leads to shorter catapults (this is unlikely but I really have no idea how it works).

Obviously these are both just theories and it is fully possible that it is coincidence that my catapults are further when FSC is in my party.

I believe that the speed of the teleport is most important when determining distance but it also seems to act differently in different locations, potentially taking into account height. It very much seems the only certainty with the Catapult is that it is related to the dismount animation from regular mounts (it does not seem to work with the broom or Roly Poly)

(Side Note: Got a very clean furniture clip on a recent run that fell apart on a catapult )

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fil: Calico
Western Australia, Australiajosh_spooky3 years ago

Just had something very interesting happen.

Whilst testing new catapults to get to daisy quicker I was able to maintain the jump of the forest spirit cat whilst unmounted. I used a very quick dismount teleport from the small cliff next to Heart Village and immediately jumped. I have not been able to replicate it yet, I landed in the path between Witching Woods and Golden Grove before getting stuck inside the invisible wall. This could have just been me getting almost picked up by the invisible wall but if it is possible to maintain the jump and more importantly speed of the forest spirit cat it could be big.

Hopefully this isn't a one time glitch and is something that can be replicated.

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fil: Calico
Western Australia, Australiajosh_spooky3 years ago

With the switch version of the game I found teleporting quicker leads to greater distance, also when I teleport from the flower shop with the forest spirit cat set to party and a quick teleport I am thrown off of the island much further than I normally go, I am going to test a new Switch route which may be quicker when I am at home later, however it seems PC may be the way to go.

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fil: Calico
Western Australia, Australiajosh_spooky3 years ago

I have hugged the invisible wall in Witching Woods to Golden Grove but it seems the only gap is under the map which without a catapult is going to be difficult to reach. I will test any way to clip through the floor to get to the gap but I don't know of any consistent way to do so yet.

As for landing directly at Daisy they closest I have come is flying over Freya's house to a small ledge but even then I am still some distance away. I don't think it has any time save but I will keep investigating.

I will also add that based on what I have seen (from other attempts) the Switch version of the game has more consistent yet smaller catapults, this could also just be down to my timing though. The Switch version of the game does seem to have differences compared to the PC version however I am not sure which is going to be faster.

fil: Calico
Western Australia, Australiajosh_spooky3 years ago

Cat-apult - I have noticed differences in the distance of my catapult when the forest spirit cat (FSC) is a member of my party vs when it is left at my cafe, for example in my submitted run, I was able to just clip into Witching woods on my first catapult, in a this run I had FSC set to my cafe, however when I have done the same thing with FSC in my party I have been thrown further sometimes off of the map. I also believe the warps are different on switch but I have no way of proving this.

My current locations include - Flower Shop to entrance of Witching Woods - Bridge in the Mountains to right next to the giant cat - Top of the hill in the middle of town to under the map in Witching Woods (mentioned later in Invisible Walls)

Furniture Clip - I have had the most success with clipping above the stairs, my best time so far from talking to kiva to clipping outside is 14/15 seconds I haven't tried rotating the rug but rather just putting it away and taking it out again. The reason for using this specific corner is even if you clip through the floor you land on top of a cabinet which allows you to still do the clip whilst if you land on the floor it seems significantly harder or impossible to perform the clip which is what occurs in the closest corner to the door.

Invisible Wall Clips - The invisible wall clip that has been part of my runs to this point is The one above the construction cats on the path to Cutie City. Done by lining up with the furthest tree on the left (when flying away from Freya's house) and then hugging the invisible wall until you clip through

I am also aware of one beneath Witching Woods that can be used to clip into Golden Grove, I achieve this by warping under the map and landing in a ravine, from here I use the broom stick to fly up and under the ravine and through a visible hole, I follow the wall and can get under the floor in Golden Grove, I believe this could potentially save time on my any% run if used to talk to Daisy slightly quicker but I haven't tested it yet.

By using the furniture clip, it is possible to completely pass through both sets of Construction Cats (Snowbell Mountain Pass and the poison flowers of Cutie City) as well as the rocks to Snowbell Mountain from Heart Village. I don't think this has any viability in runs as you can not mount animals whilst in this mode however if a way of dramatically speeding up the run speed or finding a way to mount animals/the broom stick whilst in this mode is found time could maybe be saved.

Misc - If you use the furniture mode whilst riding the ferris wheel the cart will fall off and on to the floor (no use in speedrunning just funny)

I have also found that after doing the mission for Kai that moves the giant cat butt from the log it is possible to climb the wall of Clover Coast to pass into Golden Grove whilst using the furniture clip.

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