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Western Australia, AustraliaXindictive1 year ago

Been a while since i looked at the board and im happy to see more people running the PS2 version, even if it is a bit more "unfun" with its skips and feel. Though there is something i noticed that's made me feel... weird about the rules for PS2 compared to every other board.

Why is everyone, except for me and Saiyanz, ending after getting the 12th bronze medal, and NOT doing the Arctic Randal race bit to get the ending? Its not like the rules of how the game work has changed really, progression still works practically the same to PSX and PC, yet neither of those have this rule change either, only PS2, which makes no sense. So i'd just like to know why this rule difference exists, because the way PS2 version ends is no different to the other versions and this seems way too early of a spot to end a run. And with a previous suggestion by Saiyanz years ago, it would only be at best a 1 minute increase on times to have players do Arctic Randal, get to finish without even winning it and end there with the ending cutscene, same end spot as PSX/PC.

Western Australia, AustraliaXindictive3 years ago

These rules will be in effect on August 8th 2020 at 12AM UTC

When streaming/recording a run you must be able to capture the window to show what emulator is being used. BizHawk is able to display the status bar under window capture, that must be displayed. RetroArch will have specific requirements below. You are able to run without showing the window. You must also state what emulator is being used when submitting your run.

Accepted Emulators:

BizHawk Setup: Games can only run under the cue format.

  • PSX > Options
  • Select either mednafen mode option.
  • Config > Speed/Skip > Audio Throttle

RetroArch Dedicated Rules: You must show settings of the core settings before/after the run. Your settings must match this:

  • CPU Dynarec: Disabled (Beetle Interpreter) [Default]
  • Cycles: 128 (Default)
  • GTE Overclock: Disabled
  • GPU Overclock: 1x (native)
  • Skip Bios: Disabled.
  • Access Method: Synchronous
  • Loading Speed: 2x (native)
  • PAL (European) Video Timing Override: OFF Recommended: Keep PGXP Disabled Custom settings are allowed for anything that isn't mentioned such as resolution.

For the quick answer on "why did we drop ePSXe?" That emulator for PC has not been updated in 4 years and despite being the "most accurate emulator"^ it relies on plugins compared to the other four options.

^Due to being closed source, it was able to get away with faking the scores on the PS1 Test Suite. Games that are tested to what ePSXe states it "passed" has outright failed.

Western Australia, AustraliaXindictive3 years ago

This post's rules are out of date and here as archive. Scroll down or check Game Rules for current emulator rules.

When streaming/recording a run you must be able to capture the window to show what emulator is being used. BizHawk is able to display the status bar under window capture, that must be displayed. RetroArch will have specific requirements below. You are able to run without showing the window. You must also state what emulator is being used when submitting your run.

Accepted Emulators:

BizHawk Setup: Games can only run under the cue format.

  • PSX > Options
  • Select either mednafen mode option.
  • Deinterlacing the image is allowed. Select Bob in the same window.
  • Config > Speed/Skip > Audio Throttle To verify that you are running with Audio Throttle enabled you must hit the increase/decrease speed keys [plus/minus] it will display a message on screen.

RetroArch Dedicated Rules: You must show settings of the core settings before/after the run. Your settings must match this:

  • CPU Dynarec: Disabled (Beetle Interpreter) [Default]
  • Cycles: 128 (Default)
  • GTE Overclock: Disabled
  • GPU Overclock: 1x (native)
  • Skip Bios: Disabled.
  • Access Method: Synchronous
  • Loading Speed: 2x (native)
  • PAL (European) Video Timing Override: OFF Recommended: Keep PGXP Disabled Custom settings are allowed for anything that isn't mentioned such as resolution.

For the quick answer on "why did we drop ePSXe?" That emulator for PC has not been updated in 4 years and despite being the "most accurate emulator"^ it relies on plugins compared to the other four options.

^Due to being closed source, it was able to get away with faking the scores on the PS1 Test Suite. Games that are tested to what ePSXe states it "passed" has outright failed.

Western Australia, AustraliaXindictive3 years ago

Hi there. Even though this game rarely gets runs, i just thought i'd make it clear on what is fine/required with the 100% category on both full game and level leaderboard.

  1. You don't have to get every yarn ball. 100% doesn't really take notice on yarn nor does it really count towards 100% on the game, it only counts to score. So when it comes to bosses, you can beat em MUCH faster than people have been if you just avoid the whole yarn drop thing if possible.

  2. You have to do it from a new save/progress erased before you begin it. The reason for this is because WSB doesn't do New Game stuff. Your progress is saved for good unless you remove it from the cloud and your drive. You can tell if you're doing a new save or not because of the requirements on the top left. If any of them/all of them are done (they have yellow text, not gray, for instance), then its not a new save. For PC, this will mean going into appdata and such and finding the save that way and such. Speaking of those requirements...

  3. 100% just means those 3 requirements for every level. You just have to get all the randomly spawned keys and unlock the gates, get all the shirts so that the game counts it as all shirts collected and get through it all without dying once (so no death abuse). This is REALLY difficult to verify when those requirements are already done in saves when people do their runs, which is why they usually get rejected. Bosses kinda get a pass due to everything being easy to verify based on your lives as you always only have the one shirt and such, but on normal levels? If you don't do it on a fresh save, you're getting rejected because we can't tell if the game actually counted your shirts or not. Even if you got all those lives, the requirement can still end up saying you missed one based on if you got hit and lost your shirt. So yea, just incase you're wondering, 100% is also no damage for the most part.

So just thought i'd make that clear if your run ended up getting rejected on 100% even though you seemed to have done everything. Remove your saves when you do them and make sure none of the requirements are done prior to beginning your run. Focus on completing all 3 of them in the run. Don't worry about the yarn, it doesn't count towards 100%, only towards score. That's 100% in a nutshell with Woolies Strike Back. Cheers.

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Western Australia, AustraliaXindictive7 years ago

Have you learnt nothing?! Did the last thread (that you locked) not explain this clearly enough? Why is Phase 10 a main? Why isn't like it was before? It was fine before. There's no need for Phase 10 to be a main.

You did this last time. Please, return Phase 8 and 9 back and get Phase 10 off the main, damnit. You're literally repeating your mistake. And if you won't, then can someone else (AquaBlake) fix this? This completely removes the German and Japanese versions aswell, so get it all back to it's proper form, not this.

I'm not here to throw the wikipedia at you guys, like Spikestuff. I'm just saying that what Death_Devil is doing is breaking the leaderboard AGAIN and it needs to be reverted back.

Also, good job deleting this Death. Again, trying to hide your mistake from people like the last time i posted here. Just because you're slower than Aqua's 9 Phase run which uses the German version doesn't mean you should delete the board.

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