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FinlandAKheon1 month ago

Just wondering if there was interest in a Dungeons & Diagrams category where you'd complete f.e. 10 randomized The Shadow Caverns dungeons as fast as possible. I was considering of maybe trying this out, just for fun.

FinlandAKheon9 months ago

There have been so many new glitch techniques and discoveries that I almost managed to fill my whole hard drive with raw glitch footage. I've now taken it a bit easier with glitching and instead tried to shift through this pile of glitch video and edit it in a timely manner (before I forget what's going on in each clip).

I've uploaded a new video on Youtube almost every day for the past month, and this schedule will continue for a few more weeks at least. For a full list of all the new stuff, I recommend checking out my playlist of Deadly Premonition-glitches:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBQWbQFlqZQ5Q02IQ8WO_CqP--DNlj-G-

FinlandAKheon9 months ago

Some updates...

I tried entering Becky's bedroom with peek break-out in Chapters 7, 8 and 9. The murder scene already exists in the bathroom and the safe can be opened, but the game softlocks afterwards. A skip would probably be possible in the same vein as the Chapter 12 skip if free roam was available and you could leave the car, but probably not otherwise.

I tried entering Diane's office early in Chapters 7, 8 and 9, but the trigger to end the level doesn't exist yet. It seems the Chapter 12 skip seemingly can't be done earlier than Chapter 12.

I went to Galaxy of Terror basement early with peek break-out in some of these early chapters as well, but nothing much happens there yet.

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FinlandAKheon10 months ago

Some skips that do work:

It would be worth checking out if you could use Sigourney glitch to do the "skip entire Chapter 12" trick in some earlier chapter, just in case the mission end trigger in Diane's office already exists.

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FinlandAKheon10 months ago

You can clip into George's house as early as chapter 2. All the cutscenes, etc. already exist inside the house, and going to the basement ends the chapter and takes you right to chapter 25.

Unfortunately, in our tests when doing this huge skip during chapter 4, we always got an unavoidable softlock after defeating the final boss. Some story flag is still missing? At any rate, it's worth trying this skip in some later part in the game just to see if it ever becomes viable or if it always causes that softlock.

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FinlandAKheon4 years ago

Hey, I raised this question at the Siren Discord. So far, the answer seems to lean towards "emulator is allowed, but a separate category". The loading times are probably pretty different on an emulator compared to console.

In the "any%" categories you can play on any difficulty. Easy is recommended since it's likely the fastest.

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FinlandAKheon4 years ago

Might be the best to add it as a sub-category?

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FinlandAKheon4 years ago

I think the digital version for PS4 is fastest because of shorter loading times.

FinlandAKheon4 years ago

Some days I wish one existed. I'm personally not a heavy Discord-user and don't know about the specifics of making a server. But I'd join if there was some Discord for Warriors/Musou-games -runs.

FinlandAKheon4 years ago

For full game I think RTA is the best option. For individual levels, probably IGT, although there are some caveats.

One possible compromise would be to ban Save + Quit in IL runs. It would be slightly arbitrary but it would make for more fun runs.

Pause-skipping is a little bit lame, but it might be a necessary evil with IL runs in this game. Banning pausing altogether might be a bit too radical, not to mention such a rule might not gel at all with other Warriors-games out there.

Edit: as a side note, would it be possible to add milliseconds to the run listing?

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FinlandAKheon4 years ago

Glad to hear there's an active mod here now. If you add a category for Story-mode any% (earliest possible Story-mode ending), I'll submit a run I did a few months back.

About individual Chapters... A run like that would require the player to play all mandatory levels in a Chapter in order? I haven't played WO4, so I don't know how much sense individual Chapters make in that game, but in WO3U (with the non-linear structure) such a category sounds a bit arbitrary.

Would runs like that be NG+ only beyond Chapter 1, since continuing from a file with later Chapters unlocked is no longer a fresh file?

Going for pure IGT might have some issues. For example: saving and reloading allows an infinite jump tactic that is slow in real time but very fast in IGT. Going for pure IGT that allows save and quit during a level would necessarily lead to rather boring play.

FinlandAKheon4 years ago

If you run into the sidle wall after doing the trick, you'll warp back up to it soon. It should happen automatically if you get the positioning right. Sidle walls in general work a bit strange with the ledge cancelling.

FinlandAKheon4 years ago

Hey, nice to see this game getting even more broken. I glitched this game near the start of the year, as requested by Emeraldaly. I linked the video results on Discord back then, but it looks like I never posted them here on this forum. Better late than never...

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FinlandAKheon4 years ago

The full game leaderboards has way too many categories. Could we make NG / NG+ and "all objectives" as sub-categories to make it a bit cleaner?

Also, no one ever asked if I wanted to be a DW6 moderator, but I guess I'll resign to this fate... >_>

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FinlandAKheon5 years ago

To round out the glitch tactics, here's another way to go through some walls. But starting this glitch requires a ladder.

FinlandAKheon5 years ago

Ah, I see how that could change things. And I guess running NG+ tends to be the norm in most Omega Force-games, or at least that's the impression I've gotten.

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FinlandAKheon5 years ago

I mean creating a variable NG / NG+ that is then used as a sub-category. This way both type of runs will appear in a tab under each character (i.e. main category) and the miscellaneous categories are not needed. Here's an example I just made on the Knights Contract leaderboards:

https://www.speedrun.com/Knights_Contract

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FinlandAKheon5 years ago

I only started playing Samurai Warriors 2 today, so I'm not applying to be a mod just yet. But I did get this idea looking at the leaderboards: would it be better if NG / NG+ was a sub-category? That way there wouldn't have to be so many categories on the page overall.

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FinlandAKheon5 years ago

I'm happy to report this game has an infinite jump now.

FinlandAKheon5 years ago

Promotions exploit:

In short, once you get one character to lv. 100, you can start freely promoting any characters in the game. I think in a longer speedrun category it would be worth it to even go slightly out of your way to get a lv. 100 character as fast as possible. After all, promotion means upgrade stones, and the related upgrade stone exploit lets you give max stats to characters pretty easily.

"Wallzipping":

This is a glitch that could come in handy situationally. Doing it is pretty inconsistent (except with Zhang He), but it should still help in replacing some infinite jumps in a glitched run for optimization purposes.

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