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Zenkoina2 months ago

You need to upload your run to a video sharing site like https://www.youtube.com/ and share the link to it.

Zenkoina6 months ago

@4d9r Disappearing Plates, Randomised map, Four Corners and Lift were originally left out when the board was set up due to them being completely RNG. I however wouldn't be opposed to adding Disappearing Plates and Randomised map if more people want to run them.

Zenkoina6 months ago

Seems to be the new Frostwood Depths map that was added on the 24th, I've submitted and verified it for you: https://www.speedrun.com/tcr/runs/y8ork75m

Zenkoina7 months ago

I'm still split on what to do with runs using gear glitches but I've for now atleast created a sub category to section them off from the other runs. Feel free to continue discussing what to do with them in this thread.

Zenkoina10 months ago

Yeah it was in a pretty ambiguous state as it was never explicitly stated whether it was allowed or not and nobody really submitted runs using them. I do agree that they are pretty powerful and that they would pretty much dominate over the gearless glitches in terms of speed. I didn't really bring it up in the post but yes banning them could be an option too if we want that.

I'm still leaning towards atleast a split though for those who wish to use them which is why I made this post to gather opinions.

Zenkoina10 months ago

There's recently been more runs submitted that use gear glitches so I was wondering what people's stance on them are. The main two glitches utilizing gears would be gear clipping (clipping through walls by quickly equipping and unequipping a gear) and gear speed glitching (offsetting center of mass by using an emote like /e dance2 and jumping diagonally for more speed).

I've been wondering whether there should be a category split to seperate these glitches from the regular emote clip & wallhop runs. The main options would be:

  1. Keep these glitches in the same category as it is right now.
  2. Create a new sub-category for glitches utilizing gears.
  3. Create a variable that tracks whether a run utilizes gears or not. (Would keep them in the same category but marks if the run utilizes gears so that people can then filter the leaderboard themselves)

In addition the current gear clipping runs that have been submitted all use gears that comes from the Typical Crate (Board With a Nail in It and Crowbar) https://www.speedrun.com/tcr/runs/y6vergqm https://www.speedrun.com/tcr/runs/zxqp8e8m https://www.speedrun.com/tcr/runs/yoxl7w5y

If we decide for a split I would like to discuss whether or not these should be included in the same category/sub-category/variable as the Typical Crate is currently unavailable in a few countries due to laws against lootboxes. (This restriction can be circumvented by using a VPN) There's also the potentional for gears coming from events (Advent calender, seasonal shop items, gamenights) to be utilized, as these gears would be more limited in availability it might be smart to split those in a way to.

I'm currently gearing (accidental pun oops) towards option 3 of creating a variable that tracks whether a run uses gears, and also tracking the source of where the gear was obtained. This would mean a variable with 4 options: No, Yes, Lootboxes, Events. We could also potentionally simplify this to 3 options merging either lootboxes & events, or merging yes & lootboxes.

Hoping for a productive discussion surrounding gear glitches in this thread, feel free to come with alternative solutions or things I might of missed too.

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Zenkoina1 year ago

The problem I have with it personally is that I don't really want to force people to do that. Would feel bad having to reject runs for that, I'd prefer if there were as few obstacles as possible before beginning to run. Could as a compromise only require it for top times or something like that possibly but idk.

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Zenkoina1 year ago

In general no as that requires 3rd party programs or editing fflags, although it's difficult to properly moderate.

Zenkoina1 year ago

Archived both of them

Zenkoina1 year ago

While Throwback Journey and Pagoda Laser Maze might be randomized I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping them available for whoever wants to run them. Autoclickers aren't allowed in miner's dream but it can be difficult to properly moderate so I'm not entirely set on what to do with it.

I wasn't sure what to do about Luminous Quarry before as I wasn't sure what the union geometry looked like, but after taking a look at it I have decided to move the runs to the glitches category as it's quite clear it should be considered a wallhop after taking a look at the geometry (see Images of the geometry below).

In a similar boat I've also moved https://www.speedrun.com/tcr/runs/zx30415z to the glitches category, while the geometry is a lot more complicated making it plausible to climb without wallhopping the specific spot used in the run was definitely a wallhop.

Removed all of Crusher_Pilot's runs as they were unavailable/deleted.

Zenkoina1 year ago

Yep, you're correct, I've moved the run over to the glitches category thanks.

Zenkoina3 years ago

Currently whenever a new glitched run is submitted to a map I try to check the other runs in the category and take down any that use patched glitches.

Zenkoina3 years ago

I'll probably take them down eventually

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Zenkoina3 years ago

Game was remastered which came with a complete visual overhaul and some control/physics changes, guessing most if not all runs are pretty much obsolete now

https://twitter.com/JoeBpng/status/1460356376564224012

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Zenkoina4 years ago

This would honestly be more of a challenge run than a speedrun because there would probably be some pretty hard tricks you wouldn't be able to get consistantly (and there being no way of knowing the true minimum)

Zenkoina4 years ago

I've held off on verifying those 2 runs as there currently isn't a category fit for them, I could make a category for public co-op runs and/or private co-op runs (with all POVS) if the community is interested in running those.

Zenkoina4 years ago

I've updated the leaderboard with subcategories for Ragnarok and Regular runs as Ragnarok is no longer easily obtainable (or obtainable at all) and have also checked and moved all runs to their respective category.

Edit: I've also changed timing to start from the "Ok" Button on the character creation screen instead of from the "New Game" button on the main menu.

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Zenkoina4 years ago

Yeah I currently do not count ladderflicks/trusses as glitches, runs using glitches can be submitted as glitchless if there isn't a category for it yet (in which case I'll make one). Currently there are no runs using gears yes, could have a category added for that if people want to run it though.

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Zenkoina4 years ago

All his runs are still available to watch for me, and I would assume he just uses the roblox recorder as it has some weird bugs like consistant frameskips and audio not being properly synced as far as I can tell. Here's a run I just recorded using it and it has the same behaviour as his runs + the ending audio playing too early. https://streamable.com/30q9t0

Zenkoina4 years ago

Because the board moderator hasn't set them up

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