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EnglandPunchy7 years ago

Mednafen is just about the best emulator you could possibly use if you must emulate for PS1 speedruns at all. It's the most accurate and doesn't require you to dick about with plugins, so it comes recommended.

There aren't any rules about showing your inputs or emu window, just provided you use an allowed emulator (and Mednafen qualifies and it's fairly obvious if it's not an allowed emulator because it starts introducing visual glitches into the run).

I made a tutorial video for the game's loose equivalent of Any%, it's under guides.

Good luck, my dude.

hilo: Shuriken
EnglandPunchy7 years ago

Open Broadcaster Software

EnglandPunchy7 years ago

I prefer to do leaderboard discussions in forums where it's open and records are kept. Discord chats are ephemeral and hard to use for this sort of thing imo.

The in game leaderboards are bad because legit times have been deleted for no reason. It's a thing that had already happened. It hasn't been hacked yet but pretty much all in game leaderboards inevitably get fucked up and also no videos. It's just not that good. Cyberscore is bad because the proof standard is non existent and it's not widely adopted by the community, pretty simple.

Also managing IL boards is pretty easy. The runs are short and you have a literal on screen timer to match stuff with. Shit, I'd do it for yall, it's really no big deal. I handle games with large IL boards myself with no problems, it's really not a huge deal at all. Wouldn't take that long to make, wouldn't take a whole lot of upkeep.

I'm just going to ignore everything else because it's just you getting hilariously angry about what I post on twitter. Chill. You don't gain anything by getting pissed off at me on the mods behalf lmao.

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EnglandPunchy7 years ago

The in-game leaderboards are bad because they always get hacked and they've been actively tampered with to remove legitimate times with no explanation. Disregard them. Useless.

Cyberscore kind of sucks balls for tracking down actual videos of runs for learning and generally just better documentation since proof isn't required on that website. I do not understand even slightly why you would defer to that website for speedrunning stuff, it is A Bad Call. Like half of the """records""" on that website have no proof. Fuck it. Useless.

Like, I genuinely don't understand the argument. It's the easiest thing in the world to verify, it doesn't take much effort to set up and dropping the ball on this just results in it being vastly harder to track down good TT videos. Literally why. It asks so little of you and would be worth so much.

like shit are you guys scared of having an IL community or something what's the fuckin deal I completely don't get the aversion. Is it because they're not strictly RTA or something because really who cares it doesn't seem to stop anyone from doing them so you might as well play ball.

hilo: Shuriken
EnglandPunchy8 years ago

There are two sets of keyboard controls for lefties and righties. Shoot can be either C or K (iirc?) and using both makes for good mashing.

The reset key is F9.

hilo: The Site
EnglandPunchy8 years ago

"I think it says something when one of the devs to CyberScore posts here before one from SR."

They were all at SGDQ, they're probably still winding back from the travel.

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EnglandPunchy8 years ago

[quote]So yeah it clashes with rules in a way, but only for those who don't know[/quote]

See, while I personally would be largely fine with that, the problem is it gets dregged up months later by people who've missed the context. Like, you can see it in this thread with people discussing Xerian's run being accepted despite having a shitload of audio missing, because they don't know the context of why it was rejected and then accepted because it all largely took place on Discord.

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EnglandPunchy8 years ago

Hello, I have slept on stuff.

Let's review.

http://www.speedrun.com/run/y675djqm

This run was the initial reject for missing audio for the last 3 minutes. I wasn't sure what to do with this and thus deferred to Carci's judgement and his judgement was...bizarre? Which has pointed out multiple times in the thread. I went with it because Carci's been moderating leaderboards before I even joined speedrunning entirely so I defer to his judgement when I don't really know what to do, since I'm kind of a guest mod for this game while he mods the entire series. I also went with it partially just out of zero trust with Psarthex since the last time a run with partially muted audio was mistakenly accepted (one of my own, incidentally), he started a thread more or less deliberately to pick a fight with Carci over it, so I didn't feel like being the subject of that. Shit started anyway so I still feel like I was literally never going to win with that run, but whatever.

Carci has admitted this judgement was a mistake and I was never especially comfortable with the judgement in the first place and zenix was straight up against it, so I don't see any reason it should stand other than pointless stubbornness. The audio rule in general could probably do with revision, I have literally never liked it. I'll take responsibility for going with a weird judgement instead of challenging it. Even though the thumbnail is still a petty veiled insult against me but it's obscure enough that basically only I understand it, I'll still verify it now, otherwise I'll probably forget during SGDQ.

This is a sidenote, but whoever's pointing out Xerian's WR being full of missing audio, the rule was made precisely in response to that time because it wasn't desired to have another WR with that many holes in its audio. It was actually initially rejected from the boards entirely at the rule's inception and I seriously fought for its inclusion on Discord for literal fucking hours (because Xerian honestly didn't his make his own case very well) and was actually eventually successful in getting it placed. This also all happened before I was placed as a mod, so it doesn't relate to my own moderation, but just so people understand what I actually did for that one.

As for the second run with the ridiculous harassment in it, I'm firm on not posting that one. It's ridiculous, over-the-top and I have no desire to encourage or validate that type of behaviour even a little bit. I myself have actually posted runs to this board where I am blatantly shittalking RE7 moderation in it over the audio rule because I fucking hated it at its first inception, the difference is that it didn't directly call for the harassment any particular person. I can bantz, but to that extent is ridiculous. Ultimately, that winds up being sr.c staff's call as and when they ever get around to implementing a clearer global content policy, which has been necessary for sometime.

The "mute the bits of audio where I'm shittalking" compromise I'm not really especially happy with either because I know just enough French to know that if you wanted to just mute anytime you're talking about it, you'd have to mute like half the video. The audio rule clearly has some leeway about it but that's probably not going to cut it. I honestly think you could probably re-do the run sans ridiculous toxicity faster than sr.c could implement clear guidelines on this sort of thing.

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EnglandPunchy8 years ago

[quote]I don't want what I said above to be interpreted as it justifying in any way you being flamed/harassed or that I find that behavior acceptable.[/quote]

No, sorry. That wasn't aimed at you, but there enough people in this thread who have implied as such and I want to make it known I think that is total bunk and not even remotely a position that should be entertained. You don't counteract a wrong by doing a wrong several orders of magnitude worse.

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EnglandPunchy8 years ago

Yeah, I acted like kind of an asshole in that thread for basically no reason. Complete fuck-up on my part, I forget I represent more than just myself sometimes. More or less just boiled down to the fact that it opened with an idiotic suggestion so I kinda wrote the whole thread off immediately. RE7 gets a lot of people who've never speedran a game before who suggest a lot of completely moronic things for the boards (the "music allowed" category still being my favourite) so I tend to just be extremely short and to the point with them because we are often inundated with a lot of it. The fact that I respect Psarthex a negative amount didn't help either, so I also just blew him the fuck off since his posting track record up to this point has also just been largely pointless hostility to mods.

as for the VR suggestion and the BGM thing I kinda just...flat out didn't notice either of them? I don't know how VR is substantially different, so I couldn't really help with that or know if it's justified in its existence, that'd probably be Carci's field.

For whatever it's worth though, in no way shape or form does me fucking up that one thread validate or justify the way I've been treated after the fact. Does not even slightly justify it and anyone suggesting it does is truly the worst kind of person. I reiterate that these are the sorts of things you just lose your account for in other communities, but I think you could actually literally kill someone and get away with it in speedrunning because the self-policing is totally non-existent.

Really, what it currently boils down to, is this.

[quote]I am aware that the rules and ToS on speedrun.com are not clearly defined[/quote]

This has to start existing. We need a higher-order call on whether or not it's a ridiculous free-for-all in terms of behaviour like it is currently (this would be completely insane and open to all sorts of abuse, like right now) or whether or not some type of behaviour is in fact, not ok to post to represent the website and by extension the community.

I understand that's not an easy thing to concoct given that making rules for basically the entire speedrunning community is probably extremely daunting.and not even slightly the position this website anticipated being up in. But it's becoming necessary since the lack thereof is being abused at this very moment.

[quote]Without Punchy we would live in run verification hell.[/quote]

I also kind of just want to point this out because he's right, whoever's calling for my removal probably doesn't realise how badly that would shoot yourself in the foot since I verify like somewhere between 70-80% of the runs that pass through on my own because the entire reason I joined the mod team was because I was pissed off about how slow runs were getting verified. I just clicked through the most recent 5 verified runs and 4 of them were me. And it's basically always like that. Anyone with access to backend mod statistics on sr.c can double check that, I definitely do my damn job.

incidentally sgdq is next week and I'm going and so is carci so if run verification basically entirely dies for that week, that's why!

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EnglandPunchy8 years ago

[quote]Should certain moderators start the witch-hunt on him?[/quote]

What? We've never started a witch-hunt on him. He's the one bringing his viewers in to harass us. I'm not having this shit turned around on me, he is absolutely not the victim here. I have never encouraged anyone I know to go after him or done anything untoward against him. I have openly stated a dislike of his general conduct, and that's an opinion I'm allowed to have. Game mods are not robots with no feelings and should not be treated as such.

[quote]Then you came up with a seemingly legit reason; that "ToS" extrapolate thing[/quote]

I had more time to think about it so I articulated my point better on the second reject. That's pretty normal. But like, the reasoning didn't change, I put that as the run reject mostly just to show that it wasn't solely my call, because you'd been accusing me of making these decisions unilaterally. Which I don't.

[quote]Rejecting a run because "it's harassment"? [/quote]

Is there really no line in the sand for you guys? Do you honestly think someone should be able to get away with being kind of absurdly, cartoonishly terrible? The run in question literally incites harassment against a specific individual. This isn't acceptable by Youtube or Twitch policies and it shouldn't be acceptable by ours either.

Like, I'm boggled you even think this is a questionable thing when it's literally condemned by the websites the run is uploaded to. All of the offsite harassment is terrible and stupid and petty but not sr.c business, but when it's being brought into the run itself, the line has to be drawn somewhere, you cannot seriously expect to keep doing this stuff and get away with it. In any half-decent community, this sort of stuff would just get you point-blank banned and then everyone would move on with their life, but because speedrun.com doesn't allow any such thing to happen without passing through the small staff team first, this has to be a serious discussion.

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EnglandPunchy8 years ago

[quote]it was all a matter of clarifying the reason behind that rejection via this forum or DMs[/quote]

The rejection message for the first run was "Audio muted for last 3 minutes. Final verdict on this was Reject after I asked about it.".

This is pretty clear on what the rejection was for?

And to be honest, I think rejection for violation of Twitch ToS on grounds of harassment is a pretty decent reason for a rejection? It's a weird case, I know, because I've never seen someone willingly tie a run to something like that and I know speedrunning has major issues with self-policing its behaviour but there has to be a line drawn somewhere. Leaderboard inclusion isn't a right, especially when you go out of your way to cause grief to other users within the run itself.

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EnglandPunchy8 years ago

[quote]explain what a troll thread is.[/quote]

I explained pretty clearly in my first post. I read those threads and found they didn't have anything to do with the game or its moderation so much as just trying to insult me (and FurryWulfz, for some reason?) and start a fight. The game forum isn't for personal attacks or fights.

Good people also don't incite harassment of multiple other people.

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EnglandPunchy8 years ago

I deleted two troll threads. Otherwise every other post he's ever made is still up on this website.

EnglandPunchy8 years ago

[quote] I can edit it, mute the parts where i'm talking about Succinct.[/quote]

Problem is that then clashes with the rule about not muting audio.

EnglandPunchy8 years ago

[quote]and have been manipulating the other mods[/quote]

Yeah, no. Total lie.

[quote]he told his chat to say something about you in chat for the wr vid so you'd see it.[/quote]

You can literally hear him tell people in that video to tell me I should stop moderating and any type of call to "tell someone" stuff will inevitably result in some people taking it too fucking far and he should know that. Considering he literally joined in with the viewers who took it upon themselves after that to harass me on twitter, I do not even remotely buy this innocent act.

Also, I don't see how that's acceptable even if it were true.

like he didn't do this awful thing, he did this other slightly less awful thing?

[quote] you because you rejected two of his wr runs[/quote]

No, not just me. I conferred with the other mods on both decisions, I did not make them unilaterally.

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EnglandPunchy8 years ago

[quote]I'd like to see which ToS I'm violating tbh.[/quote]

[quote]defame, harass, abuse, threaten or defraud users of the Twitch Services,[/quote]

https://www.twitch.tv/p/terms-of-service

youtube has a similar paragraph

EnglandPunchy8 years ago

You literally encouraged all of your viewers to send me hate shit within the run itself. And they in fact, totally did, across a bunch of my social media. I don't call "harassment" lightly, but that is basically the textbook definition of it.

There is a fine line between "a little roast" and "doing things that can get you banned off most websites". I can absolutely take a little roast, but that is way way way over the line.

If you do another run that doesn't contain absurd, personally spiteful, witch-hunt starting junk in it, it'll be accepted just fine. You can even flip me off at the end, I'm bigger than that. It's specifically the part where you start encouraging everyone watching you to throw shit at me where it becomes completely unacceptable. Publishing that run would just be ok'ing that type of behaviour and possibly cause more harassment for me since now more people can see you calling for it.

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EnglandPunchy8 years ago

[quote]the current moderators wouldn't listen to the community's suggestions about categories[/quote]

This all stems from a single thread where someone asked for a category literally involving hacking the game to use trainer cheats. I rejected this pretty much out of hand for reasons that I should hope are super obvious. Someone then asked for like, categories for individual segments of the game which is also a bad idea for different reasons that I explained in that thread (there isn't a single portion of that run that's unaffected by stuff done before or after it, so you can't really compartmentalise them into categories). At which point, Psarthex chooses to get incredibly snippy with the moderation because he's been doing that borderline constantly for almost no reason for literal months, so I get snippy back and fire a dumb potshot about his stream layout and lock the thread because it's going absolutely nowhere and just became episode eight million of "Psarthex throws shit at the mods for no reason".

The dumb potshot about his stream layout was pointless and bitchy and a mistake.

He then starts two more threads that have almost nothing to do with the actual content of the game moderation and is literally just attempting to start a fight with me, so I delete those as well. It was a very personal beef and had nothing to do with the game or its moderation, it was purely that I gave him personal shit. It does not belong on the game forum and I maintain that position. Me not liking someone is not a moderation issue. Me not allowing someone to air their dirty laundry on the game forum is not censorship, it flat out does not belong on this website.

This also ignores relevant context which is that Psarthex has repeatedly attempted to start pointless drama with the moderators before I even was one, again for almost no particular reason. He is, bluntly, kind of a troll. There is no way for me to really put that civilly but it's part of why he meets such an incredibly terse reaction from all of the moderators.

[quote] audio cuts that sometimes happen because of Twitch[/quote]

I don't like this rule either and fought for its removal way the fuck back when it was introduced. It's a pain in the ass. The rationale for its existence is that Resident Evil is a game series that sees a fair amount of regular cheating for some reason, and the easiest way to check for splicing is audio discrepancies. If audio is muted entirely, that isn't possible.

I don't think it's worth it, but there you go. I don't like the rule, but just because I don't like it doesn't mean I can't not enforce it when I've been placed as a mod of the game. That's not my prerogative.

[quote] they don't seem to be especially encline to listen to the community's opinion[/quote]

This is absurdly annoying considering I have done nothing but repeatedly pressure the mods (back before I was one) to hurry up on things like the DLC boards and the audio rule when that was an issue. I didn't listen to a pair of bad suggestions, so that means I'm never inclined to listen to the "community" opinion. I disagree entirely.

[quote]The condescending tone that SuccintAndPunchy takes everytime he posts something isn't either a good representation of a moderator.[/quote]

Again, kind of ignoring all of the relevant context in favour of precisely two posts in a bad thread.

[quote] he mentions the neverending rejection of his own runs for dubious reasons[/quote]

His runs have been rejected for two reasons.

1.) His first run violated the audio rule by having the audio unceremoniously die for the last few minutes. Given the last time this happened and a run with missing audio was passed through, Psarthex started a thread just to give the mods shit for making a mistake, we erred on the side of extreme caution, because we didn't feel like giving him more of a chance to shit on us, as he does basically everytime. But it was a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't".

2.) His second run features a bunch of insane, freakish over-the-top shit including, using a voice modulator to say hateful garbage and literally encouraging all of his viewers to message me hateful messages. The latter, I want to emphasize, is an extreme violation of both Twitch and Youtube terms of service. As well as those of like, basic human decency. He would later go on to encourage his viewers to harass Carcinogen while he was streaming, which again, bannable offense. Speedrun.com bizarrely has almost no policies about what you can and can't post on the website, it's basically being left entirely to moderator discretion here, and we feel as though "Run literally violates Twitch/Youtube ToS for not being a terrible person" is a pretty justifiable reason to not want to publish a run on the leaderboard. We cannot and should not allow or encourage that type of behaviour.

If you consider that a "dubious reason" then I honestly don't know what to say.

That's the total summation of events. I genuinely do not think anything needs changing besides the audio rule.

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EnglandPunchy8 years ago

honestly mate if you can get two people to play as well or better than a single person then more power to you

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