United StatesIt's there, Any% Co-Op. Show emulator, as emulator is allowed but hidden by default for the game.
@NeGAtiv4k - They still hadn't logged on, run's pending over a week, handled.
For current requests:
@buckets - You need to fulfill the requirements listed in the first post before we can consider adjusting moderation on this game.
EDIT: I took the liberty of reaching out to one of the moderators just to be proactive. They came on to handle the runs. :)
@VideoGameCarnage - Have not looked into this yet.
@NeGAtiv4k - You posted about this a few days ago; I responded https://www.speedrun.com/post/5pk6c . Apologies if you missed it, that was a lengthy post I had.
@Philpa - @Jabro is not inactive. That said, your run has been pending for a while. I will see what I can do regarding contacting them. EDIT: Tweeted at them myself, will see what happens. EDIT2: @olo_ili logged on to verify the runs. Surprise to me, but hey, works out. They also promoted you to super on the board.
@tfresh2000 Series moderators do not automatically get to moderate every game in their series just because of them being a series moderator. They moderate the series as a whole, not necessarily the games within. It's kinda like how site staff might moderate the site (in our various forms), but we're not moderators for every game on the site. That would be crazy, having site staff moderate every single game on sr.c, no? Same thing on a smaller scale for series moderators.
We aren't going to grant moderator to someone who has not run the game. That's how it is. We are aware that the game has no moderators at this point in time. But at the same time, there also currently is no reason for a moderator to be on that game, as there are no runs pending verification for it. If the situation changes, then we'll look into it again.
As a side note, I would also like to remind you that discussions are supposed to be between the requester and site staff only. I'm replying to you to clarify a bit: just like site staff do not necessarily moderate every game on sr.c , a series mod does not necessarily moderate every game in the series.
@Ben_eXceL - Not too sure on this one. I'll see if I can contact the series moderators myself and see what their thoughts are. @WiiSuper - Handled :)
@Strouse12 - Tweeted at both of the moderators, as they've both been somewhat active on Twitter. Will give them a couple days to respond.
EDIT: One responded, handled the runs.
@zir0nic - @ShikenNuggets is looking into this, per their post here.
@WiiSuper - Forwarded this on to the full moderator who's handling the game in question at this time.
@NeGAtiv4k - User is inactive but not grossly inactive. Since your runs aren't pending that long (less than a week), while I'd like to contact them I can't find a good contact for them. Ultimately, since they aren't pending very long, I will give them a couple days in case they do return.
@SubStylee - Most importantly, you do not have a pending run in this game. If @Floatious wishes to request moderator, they would need to make that request personally. Towards both of you, I would greatly appreciate if you added another method of contact to your profile, since we tend to prefer at least two forms of contact. Beyond that, Charleon has very recently uploaded a video, so I will attempt to contact them there and give them a couple days to respond, as I anticipate that it will be necessary.
EDIT: Charleon logged on and handled the runs.
@Thebeargod - You need to read the first post in this thread and fulfill the requirements we have listed there.
@BigChaz - You submitted it nine days ago, not two weeks ago. They are inactive, but only since December 2019, not a year. We check these things ;) You do not meet the requirements mentioned in the first post. In addition, the category submitted is so short I would still reject a request that met the other requirements as the run submitted does not showcase that you know the game.
@Meozinho and @Greghouse - I would advise discussing this in either game's forum rather than here. I do appreciate people talking about things; it makes our lives much easier. If you wish to get some further input from site staff on this, feel free to send us a message and we'll respond in the thread created for the issue.
Re: auto-assigned game requests: I don't like this idea. If someone resubmits something that's not an obvious reject, then they're submitting it for reconsideration, and it's not fair to them if it's assigned to someone who already voiced their opinion on it (by rejecting it). While we tend to have similar mindsets on games requested, we don't share identical opinions and there are some "gray-area" games that one person may reject and another may accept. The only real time where this might be useful is if a game is rejected for reasons unrelated to the game directly; cases where the game itself is fine but the submission is not. And these would be better-handled if/when we are able to see all previous rejections for a game.
In short: For these close decisions especially it is better to let someone else take it if it comes up again rather than forcing it back to the original person. For things which are obvious rejects, anyone will handle it when it comes up so no reason to assign it anyway there either. And for the uncommon case where it might be useful, there is a better feature on the list that would handle this just as nicely.
Cleaning up prior requests I made contact attempts on:
@Aquas Added, as they did not reply to me on twitter. @Ms_Riley_Guprz : When I come back on tonight (real life calls now) if I don't have a response I will adjust moderation for your request. I simply am out of time to watch your run to deal with your request at this immediate moment. EDIT: Added you as a regular moderator, but leaving Riley on as a super. Riley is active on the site, but your run sat for a fair bit and they didn't respond to a site message I sent them.
@Neiru / @Awosomeandy There's a fair bit to consider here, but some of that belongs in another thread in the Hello Neighbor forums (which I created). For this thread's consideration, I am not going to touch Sgitch, but will demote ccrusher to a verifier as I do believe this was accidental. I will also note that this game seems to have some moderation issues, so that lends more reason for me not to touch moderation much at this time. I encourage the moderation team to look at various games on sr.c and take some notes from them in order to improve.
As a final note, having gone back through the audit log, I found a very valid run that was rejected as obsolete. I verified this run with a note that it's verified as obsolete, and I encourage the Hello Neighbor moderators to go back through their large list of rejected runs and do the same for other, perfectly-valid, runs that were rejected as obsolete. This is something that is discussed in the moderation rules. I will link them here and in the Hello Neighbor forums for your ease of viewing.
Is there a specific reason that a timer is required to be shown in the video?
Edit: I'd also like to remind you that rejecting a run simply because it's obsolete is not a valid reject reason. Those runs still go on people's profiles to show their progress.
Edit 2: https://www.speedrun.com/moderationrules for reference. I suspect this will come up in this thread and I'd like to preemptively link them here.
@Meep_Moop Removed Deetaj due to inactivity and bumped you up to super. As far as Seckswrecks goes, they are still around and if the community feels they should be removed, I would prefer if you approached them about it since they are relatively active.
@Aquas Noticed they're active on Twitter, so mentioned them in a tweet to see if they respond. Will give them a couple days to see if they do. @Ms_Riley_Guprz Sent them a site message since they are active but your run has been sitting a while.
@StickGoku Declined. Fix the issues with your account prior to re-requesting, please (the first post of this thread explains what you need on your account before we will consider a request).
RE: Hello Neighbor - Did not look at this request as of now.
@Meep_Moop Can you point to some kind of community consensus regarding this somewhere?
Taken from the Game Request Rules: https://www.speedrun.com/gamerequestrules
"Early Access Titles - Games in a very early development stage will be examined much more thoroughly, and if balancing and bug changes are happening quite frequently we may hold off on accepting the request for a board until the game is more developed."
Requesting moderator for a game via site staff intervention is a last-resort. Game moderators can handle the assigning of moderators as they see fit; while we encourage them to assign moderator to people who know the game very well (this can be via runs or other means), we aren't going to police this because it is a guideline, and we have to lend some sort of trust to people that they can run a leaderboard. But when the game's mods aren't able to due to inactivity, this is where site staff need to step in. If you want us to step in and adjust moderation, we have our rules for you doing so. You not following them means we aren't going to grant your request. Simple as that.
Do you have a run in the game you are requesting moderator for? Yes? No?
No Site staff is not going to intervene and give you moderator.
Period, end of story. If you have an issue with this, you can take it to the feedback thread. The conversation here is done and over.
We, site staff, are not going to give moderator to someone who doesn't run the game. That doesn't mean other people who moderate the game are disallowed from doing it. We prefer that people are smart and give moderator to those who either run the game or are experienced with it, but that is a decision left to the game's moderators.
When you come to this thread and ask for moderator, you are asking people who do not moderate the game in question (usually... have seen a couple people ask for mod on games that a member of site staff moderates... did not end well for those people) to make a decision about the moderation of a game. And one of our rules for it is that you need to have a run in the game in question, because without that we have no way of knowing how much you understand about the game. It's also why we do check the run(s) the user has submitted, to see that yes, they do kinda know a thing or two about the game.
In short: without you having a run in the game, how do we know you actually know anything about the game? We don't, so we require you to have a run before we will even consider adjusting moderation.
P.S. It goes without saying, but we check moderator activity as well. We aren't going to add someone just because they've run a game; if the mods are active they get to make that call. This thread is for inactive moderators (and a couple other special cases with moderation, but generally inactive moderators), so without inactive mods this thread doesn't come into play at all.
Looking into it @Zurggriff - bit to consider here given this doesn't seem to be emulation. Something that would be useful is a comparison video between original hardware and the same game medium on Analogue's hardware.
@NeGAtiv4k Declined. Please re-familiarize yourself with the requirements in the first post of this thread - you don't have a run in this game, nor any game in this series for that matter.
@xenkaroshi They came back, your run has been reviewed. They also assigned another moderator to the game; if you are interested in moderating the game, I would speak with NME. @JosephHTobinJr A bit curious why you ended up removing yourself from a couple other games. Either way, I'll look into the game in question.
