I have some strong opinions about what should and shouldn't be considered a co-op run in games. From early on when I watched an old co-op wr run on sda I was very disenfranchised with the run I saw there. It involved getting a game over for the second player and therefore only having player one complete a stage and then having the second player jump back in by borrowing lives for boss fights.

Having said this there have been some other games where I've noticed this same tactic being implored lately. I want to set an example with the Contra leader board, but I would like input from the community on this matter before any moderating decisions are made. i would like to push for any submissions in Contra co-op to require no game over abuse. So a character dying is acceptable, but if you fully game over then you should have to reset. I would prefer to see submissions where both players are cooperatively completing every aspect of the game as the name sake implies.

Which leads to another issue. The Dk28 and Mr. K 9:54 second place time on the leader board uses these types of game over strategies. As much as I would like to showcase this run for the sake of the history, I think it also promotes this style of game play. So perhaps it's best to remove it from the board.

Please let me know what your thoughts on this matter are so we can work together at defining what is a legitimate run for this category. Thank you.

It seems Mister__K will be making a new video about the glitches showing the old and new one. I know someone had previously asked about this so just wanted to give an update.

RebootTV suggested doing some srl races before the tournament. I thought this was a fun idea, and wanted to post it here to see if others would be interested. We were thinking 2pm eastern time on Sunday's. Let me know if this sounds reasonable, and if not, let's figure out a better day or time to allow everyone a chance to participate.

I submitted a tutorial for speedrunning this game. It's under the guides tab.

Hi there fellow speed runners. I just added a ninja gaiden: dark sword of chaos run to the board. I thought it might need to be verified, but it went straight up. I hope I didn't jump the gun somehow by doing this. If that's the case, my apologies. I'll try to learn the appropriate channels on the site.

I also have a ninja gaiden run at 12:42, and a contra run I need timed. The Contra run is kind of in its own catergory though. I beat it while the cartridge was really glitched. I didn't use livesplits or anything, and I recorded these on vhs. these runs are on my youtube channel. The link is in my profile.

Thanks, Matt