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In general, I don't recommend speedrunning until the official release. See you soon.

ok so i saw how it says that you need player inputs to start the time of a run. i just want to verify, that if you open the box for the cowboy and the horse spawns with the saddle on it and you spawn on the horse, would it still not count your time yet?

@ShanKSRT Yup, this is the case for most games. Too many changing variables.

@Gooobzzzzz I don't see that ever happening, but yeah, time would only start once you move.

@SunaD3V ive had that happen to me once thats the only reason i was wondering

@SunaD3V Is a duo run valid if one player just stays afk at the spawn and the other one completes the game (considering the player touches all the signs and other rules), and also, are hidden mechanics/bugs like literally floating with a horse (i dont think i was the first one to find it) valid for speedruns?

@Ninjedu Yes your duo can stay in spawn. Bugs or any unintended game mechanic are not allowed.

wait hold on so you can finish a duo run with just one person touching the sign?

Time ends as soon as Any player meets the ending condition.

I've been on the platform for 3 years but only here do I see this madness, but ok, the most correct thing to do, as many do, is to create an Alpha category, and not invalidate the races of previous runners after changes in the game.

But that's my opinion, you do whatever you want, it's very frustrating and discouraging, knowing that I can lose my race due to modifications in the game

Oh we will make an alpha category after release or a big change. But if we made one for every small change it would be a mess.

I don't want to start archiving categories every couple of days.

it doesnt really make sense to me how you can confirm a run on duo, trio, etc as complete once only one player finishes bc then there is just no point in having that kind of category able to be speedrunable

Good point, you think having all players complete it would be better?

Imho, that just makes the runs boring. The runs just become the solo strat with more points of failure.

yeah i think all players would have to touch the sign or whatever the designated end is because its just another solo run atp

@Cheqmated, Are you saying it should be the last player or the first.

First. The importance of the distinction varies from each category, but I think that making it last kills a lot if not all of the benefit you get from multiple players in some categories (mostly non Mexico Bridge trainless runs with classes.)

That was my thought process as well. One player finishes first, while the others focus on tasks that speed up the run for the first player.

wait but whats the point of having multiple player sub catergories if it doesnt matter what any of the other players do?