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Russiadphdmn1 year ago

So I have tried speedrunning 15 puzzle category recently, and almost immediately noticed, that I'm getting same boards over and over again Like this one: https://www.speedrun.com/final_fantasy_nes/runs/zq35erry I've got that same board in my run as well:

It seems like there are a limited amount of possible boards in the game, and there is a very little amount of them, have not really count them, but I'm getting same ones like every other game, I already improved my time on this by a few seconds (my first attempt was 38.5, now it's like 34, i'll upload soon)

So Is it known how this game rng works for the puzzle game? Can you just submit runs done at same boards? If no, what should I do then? Since I got the same scramble as the other person, it really feels like there are no random boards involved, so I basically have to use the same ones

I might try to write down all of the possible boards to prove/disprove my theory, should not really take a lot of time, as the amount seems very limited

Russiadphdmn1 year ago

Just got 3 of my WR runs rejected in Sliding Puzzle category:

The moderator @AidanB gave the following reason: "Difficulty selection screen needs to be shown"

First of all, why? How is that necessary for the verification process? Run does not start until all pieces are shuffled according to the rules. My run clearly shows the shuffling process, I even edited my video, so it includes the frame-accurate timer, and managed to do so without any issue with the timings.

I understand that some of the games may require difficulty selection screen to, well, proof the matching difficulty of the level, but in Sliding Puzzle category specifically, it is Irrelevant, since Easy is 3x3, Medium is 4x4, and Hard id 5x5, without any other changes. Also, I have included all of the difficulties in one video, so it should have been even more obvious in that aspect.

Second of all, rules. There is no such requirement in the rules of the category. And there is no such requirement in the rules of the game.

So how is that a valid reason for run's rejection, If such specific requirement is not mention in the rules?

And lastly, this requirement is not satisfied by other runners of the category:

As for other categories of this game:

A bunch of others examples by different runners and different categories: https://pastebin.com/raw/faUWywhk

So what do we have?

  • There are no problems with the timings of my runs, or defining the difficulty of the level during the verification;
  • My runs do follow all of the specific category rules and the overall rules of the game;
  • My runs show full completion of the game, as required by the rules;
  • Rules of the game don't mention the requirement, of showing the difficulty selection screen;
  • Rules of the category don't mention the requirement, of showing the difficulty selection screen;
  • Other runners, of the same category, don't include the difficulty selection screen in their runs;
  • Other runners, of other categories of the game, did not include the difficulty selection screens, (including the moderator himself).

My solutions:

  • Restore my runs, as there is no valid reason for them to be rejected;
  • Modify the rules, so they clearly include the requirement, but in that case, please make sure to remove all of the runs from leaderboards, that did not satisfy this requirement, otherwise this moderation process in unfair.

Final notes:

In any case, this is very frustrating, doing WR level speedrun attempts requires a lot of time and effort, I will try matching my performance in future attempts, but I'm not sure if I can get same level of luck in a short amount of time, as before. Editing the video into a nice format also took some effort, I did not expect at all for it to just go to waste.

I strongly believe, that runs should not be rejected, unless they are not following the rules of the game, or there are really strong reason to believe, that the runs were done illegitimately.

I also believe, that rules are same for everyone, it should not be possible, that some runs follow the requirement, and other runs don't, including the staff members of the moderation team.

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