See image below but I can upload the spreadsheet easily, just ask!
Each run has 2 lines, the one on the top is the time in the video and the one at the bottom is just a calculation of the time of the video minus the start, so you have RT at the bottom. The lines with dates and time are just my runs to compare the difference between RT and GT.
I start counting when a button has been clicked like Make Paperclip or Lower or Raise and stops when reached 100% like it's been discussed in another thread. Some small mistakes by the moderators, here's the most important ones:
marcf999 : RT should be 1h43m56s (I've asked it 17d ago but still no reply in another thread)
strawdonkey : RT should be 2h23m11s
jeli : RT should be 1h57m22s
vivafringe : RT should be 2h04m43s
waltyuen : RT should be 2:08:03
BaguetteSensei : RT should be 2:20:03
JJ : IGT should be 2:26:26 and RT 2:27:59
And then some other mistakes and some of my comments :
Elipsis
This run is clearly Patch 0 and not Patch 2 because in his run he had to go to 50 Solar Farms and not 30 to get Momentum Project. It's just like vivafringe which is already Patch 0.
Geoper
Notice the mouse movement just after 00:54, that is clearly AHK / TAS. Script went wrong and he started back with the ENTER key at 1:12. Personally, I would ask Geoper to make another run because who knows what the script does in the whole run. It's a good run in position 9 but it's an easy to reproduce run. I actually don't think he actually cheated, might have been a script for something else but it's clearly established that you cannot use a script in this game.
GermanSpaceAce
When he reach 100% in Space Exploration, the console message of IGT appears exactly 11s later. It's unique, never seen that before. He reached 100k and the console message showed by the same second, which it was it should be. And it's weird because his last Strategic Modeling before he ends, the message shows at the same time after Round 64. His computer is probably lagging. Not important I would say but worth mentioning.
Christopho, jeli, Veloso, SteveTheBartender, homeknop, RiaCorvidiva, planetcarter
Those are uniques, they all have an IGT higher than RT. This, I don't think it's supposed to happen. Something is going on here. You get a low IGT by interacting in the game but Kragnir TAS run still have an IGT lower than RT by 3s and his script is clicking non-stop the whole run faster than a human can do. I haven't been able to reproduce this. Would be interested in knowing what other people think, maybe I'm missing something?
Kragnir TAS run : youtube.com/watch?v=xQLRGZ3BIsY
RatHound, AprilSR, MissDesGames
Videos unavailable. Cannot see them. That is a gray zone on this website. At one point the moderators approved them. But for the rest of us, we did not and we haven't seem them. Considering I've already found quite a few mistakes, the chance of having a mistake on those runs are not small. Moderators should try to reach them and ask them to put the videos back or make another run. At the end of the day, they all did over 2h both RT and IGT so those runs are not record breaking. RatHound was 7y ago, it's a possibility he was on Patch 0.
More discussion here: https://www.speedrun.com/forums/the_site/uor1k#q78iz
Esth
I will finish with this run. It's probably a hack in my opinion. Profile has only one other run from 7y ago in position #8 for World of Warcraft Legion: Archive(2016) from Twitch and content unavailable. His second speedrun record is this game with the youtube video available but Comments turned off. His youtube video was created May 19, 2022 and has only one video. And guess what, his record was added 2022-05-20, just one day later. He made a youtube account for the sole purpose of this. This is so suspect. His speedrun profile is empty. So he is not well know, no notoriety. No audio in the video and we don't see him/her playing. This is a web browser game so easy to cheat. His Investments is really lucky, it is actually possible to do but the chances would be very high. If he had more notoriety, I wouldn't say anything but this is not the case.
His time and the money:
- 35:48 42m
- 35:50 55m
- 35:52 66m
- 35:55 75m
- 36:02 88m
- 37:07 96m
- 36:10 112m
- 36:12 135m
- 36:17 140m
- 36:27 150m
- 36:30 160m
Clearly not as fast as this one here : youtube.com/watch?v=eBxsnP9JNmk
But this one's using TAS and Luck Manipulation at the maximum (cheat). Still, I find some similarity at 40m by getting around 10m every tick.
I bet if you flag the video has Hack, he will never say anything by trying to prove it is legit.
Spreadsheet
marcf999 in third position has a wrong time, the IGT of 1:36:51 is good but the Time should be 1:43:56 which is what I calculated. One second more or less depending on how precise you want to calculate.
Also, look at 48:56 in his video, was at 391m in investments and went up to 618m at 49:06, that is 10 seconds only for a total of 227m profits in 10 seconds. Only with Investment Engine level 6.
I've done 115 runs up to now, never saw that happened. That is a really big crazy boost. Even Esth, the World Record doesn't show that.
This game is extremely easy to cheat. Players like marcf999 having only two runs in the same game (the other is obsolete but still can be found in his profile) and no other runs on speedrun.com and turning off comments in his youtube video doesn't give him any notoriety.
I do not know how other games on speedrun.com that can be easily cheated handle this situation but I would like to hear anybody's opinion.
Hi everyone, I guess everyone knows that in a web browser, when you click and release a button then press ENTER (which is permitted) it's a legit auto-clicker in this game. Some are saying 30 CPS. Well, I'm not so sure about that. Load the game in different browsers and test it when the game starts with 0 Autoclippers and empty the first 1000 wires. Just use ENTER on Make paperclips.
The results are :
Opera : 31-35 CPS
Brave : 32-34 CPS
Chrome : 40-42 CPS
Edge : 40-42 CPS
Winner is Edge and Chrome and by quite a lot if you calculate the difference in percentage compared to others. So I would recommend using one or the other. Running latest Windows 11 here and all web browsers latest as of 2025-05-20.
Also, I'm not that sure but I don't think it harms to go in "Keyboard Properties" and you can set Repeat delay and Repeat rate at Short and Fast. If there is a difference, it's really a very short one though.
I asked ChatGPT about a configuration of web browser of Repeat delay and it said there is none.
And that brings me to my second subject, go look at different people starts that goes from 0.25 price per clips to 0.4. First one is Esth with the World Record, he goes from 0.25 to 0.06 without any delay. Also look in Stage 3, he goes from 0 to 6 Combat back and forth multiple times without delay. A simple AHK script with right-click or the Functions Key F1 to F12 could do something like that. Is still permitted? It might not look like a lot but since you are doing it so many multiple times, I think it does make a difference. I haven't tested macOS with Safari, maybe someone can test it?
Next up is Kragnir, going from 0.25 to 0.04 and has a delay, all fine.
Next up is marc999, there is a slight delay, seems fine to me, especially considering you can also click at the same time to give it a little boost.
Next up is ExtraTricky, goes from 0.25 to 0.2 without any delay.
I'm wondering what's up with this delay and what everyone else is thinking? I think it's worth investigating.
So if you are using Edge, using the ENTER key, going from 40-42 CPS and you click at the same time really fast, you are actually going faster than 30 CPS. Is that okay?
Lastly, I think it might be a good thing to raise the Zoom level to 120% in the web browser, make this tiny Run button bigger, I would guess this is legit.
Here i am making progress, slowly, very slowy, let's get some stats:
5h18m, 4h27m, 4h03m, 3h28m, 3h21m, 3h06m, 2h55m, 2h50m, 2h48m and a lot in between and I can't figure out why some speed runners are going so fast in Clips, Operations and Creativity.
Turns out: don't use Firefox. Edge and Chrome are going faster.
I filled out a bug report : https://webcompat.com/issues/150118
Knowing open-source, will probably be fix in 10 years if lucky and they don't close the ticket lol
So was wondering maybe it would be a good thing to add the browser and version in each run?
And also was wondering, maybe there is another browser Opera, Vivaldi, Palemoon, Safari and a ton of others that might go faster and give an advantage?
Any mods around here? All of those speed runs are invalids because nobody completed the game. After around 5 minutes, you do kiss a frog but it's the wrong one, the game must be completed much much much farther away. You know. The princess is in another castle.
There is no end credits in any of those runs.
Here's a complete one total of about 45m, it doesn't seem real but it's a true complete run:
Hi, what would be allowed for a legit run for 2 Players?
Let's say I play alone with 2 controllers but I make the first player die?
Does both players have to be alive when finishing the game?
What about having a coop over the internet? I think there's some emulator working over the internet?