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KunoDemetries

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KunoDemetries3 years ago

I’d like to throw my hat in the mix to try to follow what @1 said where they wanted someone who didn’t sound like a bot to respond to the entire thing. I’d like to open by saying thank you for starters to @Camcorder for genuinely giving a response to a topic that has given some rise in the community, (as many new features and additions to the site always does,) and not just sweeping it under the rug. We have seen previously from past owners of SRC that they genuinely couldn’t care about feedback.

Firstly, the problem that I see is people see this as a paid promotion that no other game dev can actually achieve. I’m not going to mention names or people, but this was lead by people at Elo for a specific reason and at the end of the day, no matter what anyone says, this is an ad for the game, no matter what, paid or not. You can make the excuse it is to promote a game that wants to coincide with speedrunners, but there is plenty of example of games succeeding without the need to reach out to SR.C to gain traction, (Katana Zero, celeste both being good examples of this.)

Secondly, there are no resources for other devs to achieve the same goal Severed Steel has reached. Who wouldn’t want the devs of games to want their game promoted on a speedrunning site where there is plenty of people to sell copies to? Speedrunning started as a market tactic and many new developers are using this tactic to sell copies(if you don’t know speedrunning has a wiki that explains this and how it was originally a marketing ploy.) Why is SS special compared to other indie developers? I personally have no grievances with the feature as who really even goes look at the game tab on SR.C, but the problem is this game, in particular, is the one that stands out even after the article being written about it months ago (which no matter what is still an unpaid advertisement, you’re still promoting the game even if it’s to showcase it,) because of this people are seeing two stars aligning and believing that this entire time SR.C/Elo had this already in the bag as a marketing tactic.

Thirdly, Which is my biggest problem with the entire situation. Why have we not received any updates about the site’s development cycle? We have yet to actually receive a full-on road map for what is to come, we’ve had minimum examples of what’s to come and are promised things that we don’t even know will do. I am very glad that @Camcorder at least had mentioned next week we will receive the mod tools. However, like previously stated, why is it only now we receive it once SR.C gets a slap on the wrist over a promotion that they tried to sweep under the rug without even mentioning the feature in an article. They have written multiple articles for previously released features (even if they were god awful.) The seclusion of this feature from the public really shows the overlying truth of the matter at hand. The same thing when they added all the ads in the first place, no mention or notice of it in the public. I fully can understand, SR.C costs money to run, mention that to us, and people will understand more than getting ads shoved down our throats. Comparing SR.C to other sites, there is at least a public road map that is frequently getting updated and mentioned. Some other sites even add it to the front page for all to see “what’s to come” without having to search for it. Many times, even when PAC owned the site, everyone was left in the dark and basically had to cope when a feature that nobody knew or wanted was released. I highly suggest Elo takes this into account and gives a PROPER road map with actual updates on what’s being made and developed. The last instance I found was when they originally purchased the site a year ago, but I may be incorrect as they post everything in uninteresting UPDATE articles that I’m sure fellow speedrunners are uninterested in reading as well.

Finally, I would like to have my fellow speedrunners know that when you don’t like a feature, you don’t shit on the mods of the game for something they can’t control, don’t shit on the helpers of the site, you don’t troll the board, and you obviously don’t be a dick to anyone, because when you do this you’re just making yourself seem like all you want is attention and no real change. Additionally, being rude to people who are giving you genuine answers is a quick way to get banned, which if you don’t care about being banned then you genuinely shouldn’t care about the resources and other features added to the site. If you want to act like you don’t want to be on SR.C then please don’t because all you’re doing is adding toxicity in a sensitive situation. We ALL know what happened when PAC pushed the new layout changes to SR.C and how everyone got riled up and treated the site like it was shit and didn’t deserve their time. When you do this you’re not really showing genuine care, there is a massive difference between dislike a feature and asking for changes then being an asshole to people you don’t know, all you’re doing is showing that you’re a toxic person. So I’d like to also give a formal apology to @Mortar as he obviously isn’t a part of the transactions that take place between Elo and the sole dev of SS, and he shouldn’t have to deal with troll runs on the board or getting hate comments towards him.

Thank y’all for reading through this and I really do want to hear other people’s proper feedback as that’s what this should be about, not anything besides a feature the community doesn’t like and would like to see changes about.

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