Florida, USAThe following changes have been made to the leaderboard:
Nintendont runs are being rejected on the grounds of being emulation and unofficial hardware. Nintendont runs faster than any official hardware noted to date, including the Backwards Compatible PS3, which is the fastest official hardware by a landslide. It creates unfair competition and leaderboard organization issues.
If there is a major pushback to this decision, the mods and I are open to considering moving Nintendont runs to the "Emulator" section of the leadearboards with the rest of the unofficial hardware. However, Nintendont will likely not be able to compete with PC emulators.
The Category tabs have been changed.
The new main category tabs will be Original - Original release on PS2/Gamecube HD - HD Release on Xbox 360/PS3
Each category will have runs separated by console for both the Original and HD versions to maintain fair competition, due to console load times varying wildly between platforms.
Backwards compatible consoles are allowed, but will be separated by console as well due to having major advantages from faster loading times. The exception to this rule will be the Wii due to its better accessibility and smaller advantage from load times over GCN.
Misc. Categories will remain merged and largely unchanged for HD, due to the fact that loads are competitive and nearly identical between the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions for these categories.
Currently, I am not making a BCPS3 category for Misc. until there is more interest. BCPS3 runs will not be accepted under "PS2" in misc.
Feel free to post or reach out to us moderators if you have any questions/concerns. Thank you!
How exactly are loads being removed, and what was the incentive behind merging actual hardware with emulator? Usually with old gen non PC games, removing loads isn't as simple as removing the "Now loading" screens, as there are other things in these old games that "load" as well. I don't want to assume about MK:D before i've looked into it any, I've just done a lot of load removal comparisons for multiple games on multiple platforms and have seen it in all of them, so I worry about it with this game as well. I was interested in running this game's Konquest on PS2 when everything was separated by console, but I'm kind of being turned away by emulator runs being mixed with hardware because in almost every case, emulator has an inherent advantage over hardware, sometimes beyond just loads (more consistent FPS in certain places, etc).
Requesting leaderboard mod for Dark Cloud 2. I asked acefrog, the only moderator, to update the speedrun page with the link to the DC community's new discord server, and to be a moderator for the boards since they seem to be inactive very frequently, but haven't received a response in 2 weeks and they have been offline for 3 weeks.
A DC2 player has also mentioned in the discord that they have been waiting about 2 weeks to get their run verified, so i'd like to see if i can get super mod to kind of structure the moderation and content of the LB better to invite more players.
Thanks a bunch! Would you be able to remove them as super mod for Dark Cloud 1 and 2 for the same reasons? When i contacted them regarding this issue, i asked them about stepping down as super mod from both games as well, but still, no response after a week.
@ShikenNuggets Re: Removing Inactive Dark Cloud Series Moderator
So I contacted zorasknight and it's been over a week, and sadly no response from them. Would it be safe to remove them as the series moderator and super moderator from both Dark Cloud 1 and Dark Cloud 2 at this point? Thanks!
I'll try reaching out first and foremost and removal would be fine at least, I understand the hesitance. How much time should I give them to respond before getting back to you?
Thanks Shiken :)
Hello,
I'm posting to request Series Moderator for the Dark Cloud series. The only series moderator for the series is zorasknight, and they have not been active for 4+ years on the site, and have never submitted a single run to either Dark Cloud game.
I have some other moderators/community members asking if we can get an active series mod. I've moderated Dark Cloud 1 for about 4 or 5 months now, and I'm very active within the community for both games. I own and manage the discord server for both games, run Dark Cloud 1 very actively, and am soon to be running Dark Cloud 2 within the next month or so.
Thanks!
Dedicated discord server for both Dark Cloud 1 and Dark Cloud 2 speedrunning.
Gotcha, thanks.
So from what I can tell from the TAS videos, letting go of long notes a bit earlier charges more HP for U-1 and also does more damage to the bosses, correct?
Is this the strategy to go about doing enough damage? Or is it better/more consistent to just try to follow the notes on the trace line from start to finish?
So what exactly makes "Fast stage 5/10" happen? Is it totally RNG or is it dependent on how you play somehow?
We discussed making it a new category but we couldn't decide on a name that accurately defined the run. The closest we got was "Any% All Allies", but we were concerned that maybe adding restrictive rules to it wouldn't make sense because the name doesn't imply restrictions further than just getting all of the allies themselves and then credits warping/skipping everything else. If we can just call it something like Any% All Allies and still add the restrictions of no credits warping/no map unlocks, i think it would be nice
We also discussed the benefits of making this route into a new category, which would be that it would be a new and interesting way to play the game(?), and maybe even be a shorter run than NCW currently is. NCW should also get faster with the glitch menu dungeon item strat.
If it were Any% All Allies, map unlocking would be banned as well as whatever "derivatives of credits warp" are, i agree that needs to be more clearly defined.
With the aforementioned things banned, we would still have to collect the atla in the first half of DBC for Xiao/Gaffer, the first half of Shipwreck and Sun and Moon for Ruby/Ungaga, and all atla in Moon Sea, so we still couldnt use 100 floor skip until Dark Heaven, since that the skip removes all atla. With the map unlocking banned we'd also still need to get those atla/allies to progress so unless i'm missing something, everything that could turn the run into a meme should be covered.
The only thing that im indifferent about is this -- with the glitched dungeon item strat allowed in NCW and most of the same glitch bans in place for this potentially new category, would the two categories be too similar? The main differences would be that you just totally ignore collecting and placing georama stuff and viewing events for the majority of the new category, compared to having to do the Town% rules in place like collecting/placing necessary atla and viewing necessary events. Personally I think it's different enough, but I'd like to know what you guys think
Awesome, thanks for the replies fellas. I totally understand not wanting to invest in a setup, especially if you'd have to have NTSC items shipped to different countries, it can get very expensive.
I was just thinking maybe Emu was the fastest for some reason so I just figured i'd ask, but given what you guys have told me I do think i'm gonna stick with my console set up for now, thanks again for all of the help :)
Is there a specific reason everyone exclusively runs on emulator?
I would like to run on console but I would assume I would be at a bit of a disadvantage due to emulator vs console loading times, and there's no separate category for it
