Fair enough, though I wasn't suggested a change but more so just a separate category for all games. And I'm not quite following regarding the medals and your point about find mii. All I'm saying is that there's a category called medals%, or medals, or whatever, and the subcategories in this are all games bronze, all games silver, etc.

So here's the dilemma I'm having. Whenever I go to run unlock all games, and more importantly whenever I reset, I have to delete my wii play save file. Simply starting with a fresh mii still leaves all of the games unlocked. This could be potentially solved by just creating another "all games" category, which would be the same as unlock everything just without having to delete your file. I was also thinking that a tab could just be created reading "medals%", or something along those lines, where there's subcategories for all bronze, all silver, all gold, and all platinum. This would be more accommodating for runners that aren't quite as skilled along with making faster runs.

Here I will list off all of the changes that have been made as of July 24, 2017: -For all coin collecting runs, time now starts upon the collection of the first coin, no longer on the start of your first run in which you collect your first coin. All previous runs have been retimed to conform to this new rule. -A new category has been added for 100 coins w/o red coins. -The 10 coin run has a new rule in which you cannot collect red coins, as only two red coins would give you 10 coins and at that point it's no longer much of a speedrun. However, if there's high demand, a separate category can be created for 10 coins w/ red coins.

Please excuse the double post, but I am going to go ahead and make these changes. I'll retime the existing runs. And make an official post in a moment in regards to the official rule changes.

Interesting, I wasn't aware of that. Does it work in the same way given that the red coins are worth 5 coins?

Hello everyone. I was thinking about adding back the category of 100 coins no red coins. For those of you that don't know, red coins are only accessible after purchasing the piggy bank character. I don't believe that in order to successfully run a category you should have to pay for an aspect of a previously free game, so it's a good category idea. Some have addressed the issue of the difficulty of an 100 coins no reds run, but I don't think that should be an issue. I'll run the category and hopefully others will follow suit. Also, and more importantly, I wanted to hear the community's thoughts on a rule change for the coin runs. The runs currently start upon your first action in the run where you collect your first coin, however this timing is very illogical considering the time in between you starting the run and collecting your first coin is completely irrelevant to your ability to collect coins. I was thinking to change the rule to time starting upon collecting your first coin, meaning the exact time start is the first frame that the new coin count appears in the upper right corner of your screen. Apologies for the very long thread. Give me your thoughts! ¤Also it should be noted I'm making this a sticky for the time being to bring attention to the post. If these changes are made an official forum post will be made in regards to the exact rule changes.

I'd probably run these if they became categories.

Thanks man. I still would like to see overall better moderation. For example, actually listening to the community and adding categories that have been ran before like unlock everything.

Agreed, Jeremy. I'd gladly become a mod in order to stop this BS. On a side note, it's been over a day and still no sign of a mod in this thread.

Exactly man. Something needs to be done about the moderation for this game. They also have a tendency of not creating the unlock everything although multiple runs have been done with it.

So a runner named Hayden has a run in mushroom, flower, and banana cup. In all three of these runs, Hayden appears to be playing in time trial mode and not VS nor GP mode. To do something like this, evidently he just doesn't understand the rules. However, I'm wondering how the hell this could possibly make it through moderation not one, not two, but three times. This shows that the videos aren't even being remotely looked at which is frustrating. Something obviously needs to be done about this.

Could I get a change to: Francesco ... thanks!

It's true. I was thinking about posting a thread like this as well. I'm on here everyday and am knowledgeable of the game, so I wouldn't be a bad mod. Plus I've been playing the game for a while so I'd be a good candidate.

Thanks for the help guys!

Yeah I'll run it. Also maybe a 500 category would be good. 500 score, that is.

I can definitely understand the downsides of a 2 player 32 track run in MKWii, being mostly that the time is essentially completely reliant on the second finisher. However, I do believe there are some pros to this type of run. There's more or less double the amount of RNG you'll need to deal with which I believe would have the power to make these runs fairly competitive and interesting. Also, when doing this with one of my friends just for fun we found that there definitely was some different strategy tossed in there that wouldn't be found in a simple 32 track run. For example, if a player has a shroom you have to find a good way to let this player end up in first without losing too much time (if that made any sense). Let me know what you think.