So, ironically enough, I was actually trying to do this, and I think it happened. So, doing a fast accel on the warp zone room in 4-2 results in a framerule being saved. At least, with the method of wall clipping I did in the run. I'm not entirely sure in this could help to get 4:54 or not. Here is the lnk to te video comparing the normal strat and the fast accel: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v48Cw9hAlHugHk-Tmnpos9yq2mYgcRWU/view?usp=sharing Also, I am completely aware of the terrible quality. Edit: Since nobody is reading this, I just want to say that the FAST ACCEL is the only hing I am focusing on. I am aware that I use an older method of wallclipping. I believe this saves the framerule with the normal method.

Hmmm... This is actually a decent find. I don't know if it will be viable enough to save another framerule consistently.

yeah, fast accels are hard. But don't they use one in 8-4 in like every wr run within the past like 1 or 2 years?

are you sure it wasn't just that one of them didn't save the regular fast 4-2 framerule and one of them did? happylee and jonny's method of doing lightspeed 4-2 were insanely hard, and required so much crazy stuff in it, more than this

Yeah what was done in the vid doesn't look even close to being fast enough for light speed framerule lul.

I compared it to somewes' .796 and it is the same speed.

okay that's fine like I said, because I wasn't 100% sure if it did or not. But it saves the framerule in the method I did. Aside from the fast accel, the runs are 100% the same in the first room.

Try comparing it with wes’s 4:55

Wasn’t this wallcilp already done before

This won’t help get a 4:54 but maybe a faster 4:55

yeah this clip was the original version of Blazit that was used by AndrewG back when 2 bump fast 4-2 was the go to. Its actually slower than the current Wallclip. Also entering the pipe in 375 should have been a dead giveaway that this wasn't as fast as Blazit. A Fast accel at best saves 2 frames when done perfectly and we are far from 2 frames away from saving the next framerule even with the best wallclip anyone has done.

how many frames are actually needed to save the framerule from a good wallclip

The fastest I've heard someone get is 4-8 to the warpzone which is about 10 frames away from the minimum to get the framrule with a perfect warpzone without fast accel. So 8 frames with a perfect fast accel.

Guys I dont know if you realize it but we pretty much got this 30 year old game figured out. I'd be impressed to find anything new that would save anytime in the game. Really it's all about being more consistent at what is known now.

Actually, Darbian got a 4-9 Entering Warpzone: , but yes your point still stands, 9 frames away minimum to get the framerule.

You guys don't understand. It is the fast accel in the warp zone room i'm talking about. The clip is just the one I use okay?

If you do the HappyLee method clip, you can save another framerule without fast accel. If you use the 2 bump method but the really fast variation (executing at absolute perfection) you can get 8-F and then you will need double fast accels to save the framerule

So you need what KingOf_JonnyBoy did, plus two fast accels to get the lightspeed 4-2?

yes