Lvl99 run is 1h17min25sec

17Min cut against that lvl 53 run..

its huge really, i don't know if its gonna be worse on lvl299... but how do you grind to lvl299? is there any way than metal dogoo? (11Million exp)

I just feel like the setup for NG+ is kinda long, you can get to lvl 99 just with 1hour of farming, but weapons? i don't know by myself

i will try to speedrun with lvl 99 and see if a lot of time is burned from the lvl50 to lvl 99 jump

But, a friend kinda laughed at me when he saw i was speedrunning on NG+ instead of NG (major problem is that i'm scared of RNG boss fights (corrupted CPUs, Gold third fights) and i still don't know the route or the build..

I will try to build everything next week and try to speedrun

But i've seen something weird with PC version

• Loading times are really huge if you go too fast
• Animation skip take a tiny bit longer than expected

you can fix it by literaly fucking the graphics to the lowest settings, but cmon were on pc, its lame.

I found something okay, for the set of rules in the PC, to avoid any problems:

ALL NG+ RUNS ON PC SHOULD NOT USE DLC FREE -so NG+ runs will always be at lvl 99

you can't separate the free dlcs, so why not doing non-dlc run?

of course, you can have a NG DLC free, it helps the early game but a NG+ DLC free is.... useless?

on PC it should have 3 kind of run -No DLC for NG+ runs plus no character customisation (basic stuff, no change) (level cap 99!) (so that the hell grinding of some runs should be fair for new runners, you just need lvl 99 to start the run) -No DLC for NG runs. -Free DLCs for NG runs

After that, i don't know if paid DLC change something about the runs, i am no expert.

what do you think guys?

Its true, i reacted that way when i first saw the rules for the NG+ free :/

but i propose to do a NG+ ITEMLESS run, and we should put some limit to the levels, or specific levels

Ive done a lvl 40-50 char run bad ending on 1:36:40

but the current record is 40min cause chars are level 399....

meh

The main problem on PC is that you can't uncheck Histy's DLCs, it comes with the full pack of everything free

so my idea is to make the "free dlcs" NG+ runs, ITEMLESS

• you don't change items on characters
• you don't use items you already have. maybe exept revivals?

Also you should put note to the char's levels, because a lvl399 run against a lvl50 run isn't fair

I don't even know if this section is kept by someone active, but oh well. I will speedrun Bad route on PC, NG+ lvl 50

it seems weird to use, really, that means you need 14 (or 16?) buttons for the splits?

Also, its better to put a 2-15split on speedrun to avoid stress on runs (you can't know whats your time until its the end of 15th run, so you can focus on the run without worrying on the splits)

but its a great tool to compare your TTs and the splits to know where you actualy lose time, but sounds hard to use.

awesome idea, but you focus more on spliting than doing the run itself i guess.

(thats my personnal thought, maybe i'm the only one that don't really love it on actual runs)