Spoilers, but...

Credits appear when you first do a KK Slider concert, which is not related to the debts.

2nd players have debts, my sister being a source. The only activities a 2nd player can't directly do are storyline stuff with tom nook and many island development related activities, such as placing a plot of land for a new villager.

I believe you can delete individual characters via the minus button on the opening screen before you press a to enter the game.

(Just be warned that not all people agree that NG+ should exist based on precedent from past Animal Crossing games. Weither or not you think it is fair, you will likely have to get them to agree to it)

I mean there likely can be, but we need a route that takes a reasonable amount of time that someone is willing to run (because people aren't willing to try for turnip rng)

I don't think native flower bugs are a good strategy because you need to get vaulting pole and the ladder just to get to where your island's native flower is iirc (though correct me if I am wrong). So you would either need to use nook mile islands for bugs or buy seeds from the store, plant them, and time travel.

I didnt think too far ahead in the turnips strategy because it required Nooks Cranny, but at the same time I still dont know exactly what would be fast enough.

If getting enough bugs and such takes long enough, then unfortunately we could be forced to use turnips because the time save if you happen to overcome the odds may be worth it.

What do you suggest, because I have no idea of any other way to do it without the dupes. They obviously arent reliable, but I am focusing on speed and not really reliability, which I why I mentioned turnips. I am not sure exactly how I would wanna go about it.

I am also not sure how long tarantula stuff takes, and there probably is a better route for that.

My plan was to hope for a really lucky stalk market a few times in a row after getting 100-200k through tarantula island & Money rock after buying 1 pocket upgrade.

Of course it may be faster, but it is also very very hard luck lol

Update: Highest I have seen turnips go to was above 500 on acturnips subreddit, so I think it is possible with 2 turnip spike weeks after a 1 pocket upgrade and 29 tarantulas from the island could get you the 5.5 mil p4ntz estimated in his comment section when I checked. Of course I am not sure if turnip prices are a thing before the nook's cranny upgrade, or if this would end up being faster.

248 Million!?!?!? Dang

Can somebody tell me the total cost for all the debts combined, I have a glitchless idea but I want to see if it is realistic and I cant seem to find the info anywhere, and I dont feel like watching this whole thing to find out lol. Thanks!

Nah, its at least day 3, not day 1. And months? Just because you speedran an early part of the game for fun doesnt mean you cant have a fun playthrough over time concurrent with said speedrunning :P

There are plenty of valid reasons to be doing a run as early as you want to. Maybe you have 2 switches and a physical copy, and dont want to do a casual runthrough all day since you dont wanna time travel and have done all you want to for the day, but you still want to play AC or just need something to do?

Regardless, there are also many people just discussing hypotheticals to get the ball rolling so we dont need to wait as long to figure out a route. (Me included)

Also, if people want to do so, let them do it, it isn't hurting anyone and is their own choice.

I would imagine All debts involves actually abusing nook miles in some other way or something, if we exclude the duplication. The only idea I have, which is probably inefficient, is getting a bunch of birthday miles and using tickets to try and get the tarantula ridden island after getting a pockets upgrade, and fill the pockets with tarantulas, and then go back and sell them and invest them in the stalk market and hope you get lucky.

The only other idea I have is a New Game + Category, where we add a villager to an existing island and do runs that way with some limitations (No picking up items unless earned properly or something idk)

Not much discussion has occurred, I would think that the strategy for a single debt is either: Do day 1 with birthday set to current day -> do the easiest and most convenient nook miles to get to 3000 (Bday + 1000) -> change date to get another 2000 ->Talk to nook to pay it off -> Time ends at the celebration animation (If there is one, fairly sure but cant 100% recall) Or Do Day 1 on Bday -> get nook miles for Bday -> Time travel once to collect next years nook miles -> Time travel again to collect another 2000 and talk to nook to pay it off -> end timer

The main issue with running is that you already need a 2nd switch as each switch is a single island. Whenever somebody feels like deleting their town or doing a run on a 2nd switch I guess.

By another one I am referring to a single player duplication glitch. That depends on the result of whatever discussion about run categories we should have for how that glitch affects the game.

Do we allow local play in this way? There are arguments for either side but regardless, you do need to factor in creating another resident as part of the time, and weither or not we want to allow this after it gets patched.

I just wonder how much you would need to get overall. Obviously it is useful, but you only NEED 5k miles for debt 1, and after that subsequent payments are bells. It all depends on what run it is and what we are using miles for. There are some VERY easy miles as well, such as the photo designer app, that it may be faster to get instead of changing the date a 3rd time, though I am not 100% sure. I am overall not sure of the relevance of getting the extra 40 miles due to how small it is in the grand scheme of the run.

1st debt probably uses this birthday thing to skip most of the mile stuff, but I am not sure exactly how it would affect something like all debts, especially if another duplication glitch is found.

It may take too long to do for the benefit it has. Do you get 2000 Birthday miles every birthday or just the first one? If every, then it would be better to go from one birthday to another to another for 2000 at a time.

If this is what I think, remember birthdays give 2000 miles so that would be a strategy.

Like I have stated on discord in the past, it is totally possible if you have a co-op team for the whole time carrying you.

Yeah, I realize it myself. Time of TTC Co-Op + Training for needed gags before each area + Times for each individual area co-op + The DDL stuff there hasn't been a run for yet + Law & Boss Suits