Hello robby, this game is very good and Im glad that it got accepted (finally, since it was rejected in 2021). The ILs have a lot of potential, however the board needs some improvements.

First of all, the division of IL categories in 10 level intervals seems a bit arbitrary which is a bit disappointing in my opinion. Now that there arent many runs you can still change the boards without a lot of trouble. I have a few suggestions:

#IL changes:

• You can divide by worlds and in each world put each minigame with the corresponding levels. For example, youd make a World 1 IL and then all of the minigames (Mad drive world 1, recoil world 1 etc) as other ILs. That way the division wouldnt be that arbitrary, the board would look better and we would have a “full world” category. This, in my opinion, is the best way.

• You can do the same as before but instead of making each minigame a level you could make them a subcategory for the world level using variables. I dont suggest it though since its harder to navigate

• You can have each minigame separated (Mad drive, speed king, longcate) each of them as their own level and rename the categories to “Parts” so each category includes the levels of a minigame contained within a world. For example, mad drive part 1 would be the world 1 levels, speed king part 1 would be the world 2 levels etc. This wont look that good though.

Another thing that needs a change is the rules and this is a change that you can also apply to the other game you mod:

#Full game rule changes:

• You dont need to mention that hacks arent allowed, its in the site rules

• In the game rules, you should add the video quality and framerrate requirements (you dont have to be very specific) and what things need to be shown (level counter, show you entering the first level of the run…) as well as wether or not audio is required.

• The current starting frame isnt very ideal as the level comes from fade out to fade in which is very tricky (and saying “when it starts loading” isnt very clear). You dont have that many runs to retime so I suggest changing the starting frame to the moment the blue “play” button from the menu is not visible.

• For the end frame, theres nothing currently. I suggest ending time in the first frame that the white circle appears.

#Level rules changes

• For the level rules, you could specify from which level to which you have to play.

#Other:

• One last suggestion would be to remove regions. Theres no NTSC/USA version of the game

I know theres a lot of text so sorry for that. Ill join the discord and you can contact me there if you need any help, you want me to explain further or you want any advice. Thank you fro bringing this game to the site

The single player trials that we get every week are very fun and most will agree that the challenge is enoyable. Recently the “adrenaline rush” trial was added which is a very fun category (I think I had like a 29s but I didnt record bc I didnt know it was a category, I really liked it) and I think its a good idea.

The adrenaline rush, however, isnt a one-off, since most trials (and all of the speed-trials) can be fun and could be added to the site to increase the competition.

Also, even though this is a speedrunning, website, Id consider adding all of the trials, not only speed trials but also the highscore ones since they are also relying on speed.

As of how it could be done, I can provide a few options:

-Each trial could be an individual level. All of the trials would be in the Individual Levels section. If only the speed trials were added we would only need 1 category, but if all of them are added, you would need 2 categories. One called being timed by timer like normal and the other having ascending timer ranking for highscore. Only 1 category would be used in each level.

-Each trial could be a category, either visible or in the Misc. section (Id suggest using misc. for better browsing). This way, each level could have its own timing rules (ascending for highscore trials and descending timer for speedruns). You wouldnt need to make subcategories, however, it would be less convenient than ILs and slower to browse. -You could have a “Trials” category in full game with each trial being a subcategory. This would be the worst option as it would be even slower to browse than misc. and youd need to have 2 categories, one for speedrun trials and one for highscores. This is the worst of all but its still an option. In my opinion, the first option would be the best. Its fast to browse and it looks good. As an example of how it would work, you can check out the IL leaderboards for Tap The Frog: Doodle, which use the ILs with ascending/normal timer categories and it works perfectly.

If you want some advice Im my dms are open here and on discord. I like this game a lot and I love speedrunning so Im ready to help if you need.

Thanks for your time and sorry for the massive text wall.

Runs shorter than 5 minutes could have milliseconds to untie people

The in game leaderboards are just better in every way, we dont need IL leaderboards

Categories such as Africa, Europe, Asia, South America, North America etc could be added as miscellaneous. They would be cool

Since this is a speedrunning website and the min movement category currently looks like a joke given that you can get free wrs with no skill by just following the routes that others use and without having to do anything even remotely hard, Id consider making time count for the category. You could do this by making players input their time as normal and add 1 minute for each movement. That way the category will be actually competitive as people will have to avoid unnecessary movements but also go fast. If thats too similar to any%, meaning that the routes for every level are the same then Id consider deleting the category entirely. I know that some wouldnt be happy about it, but given the low effort required in the category not much would be lost. If you cant or dont want to retime all of the runs you can ask for help from other people (you could probably find 10 people willing to retime 50 runs each) or delete the category. Please change the category. Thanks for your time

I thought I made a thread yesterday. As I wanted to say, the ILs are very short as the game is already very short (4 minutes is an appropriate length for 1 or 2 ILs together in Roblox). In roblox obbys like this you cant really save time other than by cutting corners closer to the limit or jumping faster, both of which are very simple and they are no challenge. I would hardly consider them speedruns. The ILs are just a joke and have no place here, so why keep them? Ive already said this in many lbs but checkpoints are not levels, they are just checkpoints and youre not meant to do speedruns just from one checkpoint to the next because its too simple to be considered a speedrun. Thanks for your time, I hope that you decide to do whats correct

I was checking out the game and I saw that the categories fit the first level but not the rest.

Each level has 10 challenges which usually follow a pattern.1-5 are highscore, 9 is all letters, 10 is secret and 6-8 are random stuff.

##The problem: The problem is that the highscore requirements arent always the same so in stage 1, goal 5 is 175 cars and in stage 3 its 300 cars, making the current highscore categories arbitrary for other levels. Also, since challenges 6-8 are random you cant force the same categories as, for example, level 3 doesnt have cones and in other levels challenge 6 might be 10 cones instead of 5.

#Solutions:

You can keep the stages and levels and use categories for each goal, naming them “Goal 1”, “Goal 2” etc so they are universal or even “Goal 1 (highscore)” “Goal 2 (Highscore)” “Goal 10 (secret)” adding something to give hints about the goals that have a pattern. If you wanted to go further (it would take long and idk if its possible but it would help a lot verifying) you could create a variable for each goal of each level with only 1 subcategory which had the requirement of the goal. For example: (In goal 1 level 1 youd name the only subcategory “25 cones”, then in goal 5 level 3 it would be “300 cones” etc.) This last thing would be helpful as you wouldnt have to check if the person submitted to the right goal by looking at a list since you would see the sub category. Its also helpful to avoid making mistakes when you submit.

You could make the levels full game categories, make a variable with 10 subcategories for each stage and name each subcategory however you want. This would be slower to get through than the ILs since you cant see every goal at the same time but Im 100% sure that its possible.

#2 more categories:

I guess it could stay since its beginner friendly and all of the stages have letters

You can make a category for achieving every goal in a specific stage, though in some stages like stage 1 you might have to exit and reenter the stage and the mod would have to track all of the goals when they are verifying which would be boring.

In challenge 7 or 8 of stage 1 you have to hit 100 cones, and leaving and reentering the level is needed, which means that either the mod would have to count every cone or you could add extra rules to force players to hit every cone each time they enter the level which makes verifying easier

In one of the supermarket goals you have to make 100 karts go through the register, the problem is that the goal ends when 100 have gone through and you cant tell when its over unless the registers are on the screen. You can make it mandatory to have the registers on the screen when the goal is completed or directly N/A that goal

The problematic goals could make it hard or impossible to verify an “All goals” run, you can allow runners to skip those missions for all goals if thats the best option.

#My dms are open in sr.c and discord to discuss this further. Sorry for the wall of text and thanks for your attention.

Hello, I was checking the leaderboard and I saw the state. Even though they are ok, I think theres a couple changes that could be made to improve the leaderboards and its better to do it now that there arent many runs.

1. Categories distribution: One of the main things you notice is that all of the categories are in the full game area which makes them slower to navigate with the current sr.c format. To improve the page you could move the categories to the Individual levels categories so its easier to navigate and maybe use full game categories for the tournaments or speedruns of all of the levels in one game. You can either: 1) create one level for each type of game (one level for tanks, one for cars, etc.) and then use different categories for each game or 2) Have each level of each game be its own level (Cars level 1, cars level 2…).

2. Categories names: According to the site rules, the use of the % sign should be avoided in category names where it isnt necessary (except for normalised names like any% or 100%) as many members dislike this. I suggest changing the names to “Beat (game)” or, if they are moved to the ILs make each level “Level (x) of (game) and the category should be called “beat the level” (this is for option 2, as discussed option 1 category names would be “level (x)”.

3. Rules: It should be clarified wether or not audio is required

(edit) 4. Other fixes: Here Ill add other fixes that I find

1. In the “all car levels” the last level should also be counted as its in the game, leaving it out is a very arbitrary decision and even if it is very similar to the first one (which it isnt completely since less cars=less collisions) its part of the levels and it should be counted Thats it, thanks for your time.

Theres a lot of games with the same name, maybe you should put a link in resources to download it from the play store

The mod hasnt been online in the week so for that time the board has been neglected and no categories have been added in 11 days. Leaderboards neglected like this might get flagged by site staff to delete them so maybe someone should be added to replace the current mod

Hello, Ive recently noticed that youve merged the old versions together in 1 category. I want to inform that some runs only had in game time in them and with the change, now that the in game timer is gone from the timing they have no time and they are placed last. Ive resubmitted my runs but other runners might not remember to do so so mods should edit the runs themselves

Hello there, I have a few suggestions: 1 I see that the lb says its from 2022, however, the game has been on the site since 2020. I understand that this might be because the revamped version has just been released, however I think that its better to have the date of the legacy version being created as the date to avoid confusion about it. 2 The lb has 100 ILs, most of which are very short and trivial. They are just running and turning requiring low skill and with almost no chances to optimize it since youre just running. As Ive said in other lbs, this doesnt help the image of the lb and makes the series look worse so I was wondering if you could get rid of the current ILs and either not have an IL page or have an IL page with a level for each zone (since it would make the lbs easier to navigate)

Yesterday @Fioresa announced that he would be stepping back from speedrun.com for a while and I thought that Id make this thread about fioresa so people can find this information in the future.

For those who dont know, Fioresa was a speedrunner who got many wrs among many different games. He started speedrunning in late 2019 playing small games like lunar mission and obtaining many wrs. Soon, he got interested in other games and he kept farming wrs. He became the person with the highest known wr count (even though around mid 2020 it was found out that dlimes13 had a higher wr count but it was unknown to many and we dont know when he overtook fioresa).

He was the first person known for breaking the 1K wrs barrier and he shared his achievements, even when some people criticised him for it, inspiring others to follow his steps and showing what someone could do if they really wanted. By late 2020 and 2021 more people (like me) started doing what he had done and became wr farmers, most notably sheschardcore and otterstone gamer. This type of speedrunning started to become more popular with more people interested in it and more people started talking about it. Soon, we started making the lbs and even created the server for the farming community.

For the last months, fioresa has been losing ground to otter. Hes no longer the person with the most wrs and hes not doing as many runs as other runners. However, his impact on the community cant be overstated. He has been responsible for the rise and growth of a new community, which went from a few people talking in the bots channel in the MSD to a community with many different runners and a lot of knowledge of sr.c, one that he represents as one of the greatest farmers.

This is why I made this thread, now that hes stopping, people should know what he has done and this story should be kept as part of the history of our little hobby.

Thank you Fioresa

Hey there, I have seen a trend on a few roblox games on sr.c where the games tend to have a lot of ILs which are just a few seconds long, around 10 to 20 seconds, and represent no challenge; and this game is no exception. The ILs in this game appear to be less than 10 seconds long and pose no challenge. Each IL is just the space between 2 checkpoints in which theres usually not more than a few jumps and where theres no opportunity to really go fast since youre just running straight and jumping, Thats why, Id encourage the moderator to delete the ILs as they are very unnecessary, they are somewhat lame and its a bad idea to have this many useless categories.

Also, Im no expert myself, but I believe that it would be better to not have 1 category for each possible setup (No upgrades, head throw only, cheat pass only and having everything) but maybe it would be better to simplify and make it 2: No gamepasses and all gamepasses.

The second suggestion is probably less relevant and it shouldnt be a priority. However, the state of the ILs really damages the image of the board and, in my opinion, this trend with the ILs damages the Roblox series directly and maybe it would be better to stop it now.

Thanks for your time

Hello, Im here to announce the next MSD competition, season 3 competition 1. This will be the first competition of the year and will share many similarities with the previous format with a few additions that are explained in the announcement in the competition channel. For those who dont know: The MSD comps are speedrunning competitions held in the Mobile Speedrunning discord lasting around 7 weeks with 1 round per week starting on the 30th of January. Each round, a mobile game is chosen and the competitiors have to learn it, master it and get the best times. Everyone can join, including people who dont have a lot of experience since they can find new games to speedrun and socialize with the community. For more info about the rules and prizes, read the announcement in the discord channel or ask any of the event organisers ( @felipereis11011, @Kkntucara, @VSpook or @16BitPumpkin ) on discord. Good luck https://discord.gg/mu6aaSH

Look at the ILs, they are 5 seconds long and its just a few moves and jumps. It would have been better to make the individual areas the ILs and not each stage. Please don do this of other “cool obby” obbies come out

With the new layout it takes minutes to scroll through the entire list of full game categories to find the correct one. It would probably be better to ude Individual levels instead of full game categories. The layout of individual levels works better with more categories than the ful game layout as they didnt expect that someone would add 162 categories without using subcategories. The ILs on the other hand are faster to use and when you click on “see all” you can see the wr times for all of the categories, who holds the wrs and what cats are empty.

Figuring out what should be classified as an IL is hard, specially in roblox obbys, and currently, I think that the way the ILs are divided isnt good both here and in other obbies, but Ill stick to talking about this one in this thread. The division of the 200 stages in 40 ILs of 5 stages each seems a bit arbitrary in my opinion, just like 10, 15 or 20 checkpoints per IL would be. However, I dont think that the ILs should be divided in an IL for each checkpoint as it would be trivial since it can take 5 seconds per IL and no challenge at all. The difference between checkpoint 1 and 2 isnt significative enough to consider them separate levels so instead it would be better to get rid of the current ILs and either delete the IL page entirely or put the different biomes like Plains as the ILs since the difference between biomes is more significant and the length and difficulty is more appropriate for an actual speedrun than just running from checkpoint 1 to 5. (This can also be said about others like 1000 level obby and car obby even though those already have competition in the ILs so the levels shouldnt be removed. Luckily, there arent any runs in the ILs of this leaderboard so you can still delete them and, even if they were, you could still delete them if there were only a few runs).