Just to let you know, you based the time off of when you paused the game at the end which was a few days after you won the final duel. I changed it so the actual time is 5 years, 5 months, and 28 days; rather than 5 years, 6 months and 5 days.

The actual date the final duel was won was 28/06/774.

I updated it so the days are in the seconds in the correct space. Good RNG run lol

Updated the run so the days are in the seconds instead of milliseconds. Other than that, the run was good. :)

You put the days into milliseconds instead of into the seconds. I fixed that, so now the run is good! :)

Good run. You input the months into the seconds and days into the milliseconds, instead of putting the months into minutes and days into seconds. I changed that for you, so the run is good now.

Does the discord still exist? Just wondering cause the link doesn't work anymore.

Just realized that I the cut I made of my stream accidently had 2 runs and not just one, the actual run should start around 4:51ish, sorry about that.

This WR has lasted longer than it took me to form Scandanavia! haha

This is a very interesting concept for a run. I think it would be a fun and I would love to do a run of it if the category was added. Who knows, maybe it'll bring in more people to speedrun this game that I love. (Probably won't but it's nice to think about.) I do kinda wish to see this added tho. Maybe we would get another one of DobroJackal's WR runs that no matter how hard I try, I'll never beat them. (Maybe one day I'll understand how he does it lol)

If we were to add this run, would it start from the first day like all the other runs, or would it be from the day you are subjugated into Norway. Also, would the rules allow you to fight Norway before getting subjugated, or would you have to immediately surrender from the start. I feel like these two go hand in hand with each other, because a surrender is randomized, that's why the "It's Good To Be King" and "It's Better To Be Emporer" categories have times that are both short, but also inconsistant. It just matters when the surrender goes through due to how long the AI holds onto the sue for peace.

So, if we make the rules say that you have to immediately surrender to Norway, I think it should start on the date you are subjugated, that way you don't miss a couple of days very early on because of strictly RNG. If you don't, it may take plenty of tries just to get the best RNG, which is 4 days. I think the amount of RNG to get this quick surrender could really be fustraighting, especially when going for a WR, which with the small player count for this games community, would be the most competition going on. In my experience for speedrunning this game, I was fueled by getting a WR, so I will say this could be my bias showing.

Now, the alternative is that we start from the first day like every other run and you could try to fight Norway and surrender later in the run, or surrender immediately based on whatever you think will make the run be faster. This would make it conform with the other runs, making it easy for anyone who has done any run for this game to understand how the runs timing is measured and would only need to worry about what the run actually entails.

I am kind of split on which way the rules for the run should be. This is just my initial reaction to this idea of a category being added. If anyone else has an opinion, while I am not an admin for the game, I would love to see what you think about it. :)

Let start by clarifying some things about my original post. When I used the example of the HRE speedrun. I didn't necessarily mean that every run should have a MP. I was more of using it as an example to show what is technically allowed by the rules. I didn't mean that it was a good thing.

Runs like the HRE and Stamford Bridge should not have MP. The HRE run, I would say I average about 7 months and 16 days (This is a really rough estimate). Seeing a run on it that lasts less that a month because one player is just being a surrender slave, to me it just seems like it wouldn't really fit, especially as one of main runs. If you had someone being a surrender slave on a Stamford Bridge (This includes all 3 categories of it), you would end up with a 1 day run. With this being said, I don't think that every run, especially short runs should have MP categories (Unless the mods want throw it in misc. "For the Memes" like they did with the 'Always Bet on the Duke Run'.)

I do agree with @MiklMaar that a 2 player (maybe 3, but that's pushing it) World Conquest would be fun. A MP World Conquest is actually what made my friend ask me if MP was allowed on runs, because if it was, he said he might do one with me. This is more of what I meant when I was talking about when I made this post. Looking back at my original post when I said that you could have people not be you're vassal brings up a lot of problems, so I think that if MP is allowed, then there should be a rule that only one player can be the head ruler of a country, and all the other players have to be a vassal in his realm. This is so we don't have to worry about players being a surrender slave.

I think that the idea of have at least 2 players coordinating on objectives to make a run faster is really interesting. I'm looking forward to see what the mods other people think about this. :)

Edit: Grammar

I was playing CK2 with one of my friends the other day and we started talking about speedrunning. He asked me if I knew whether or not speedruns could be done as multiplayer. I looked into it, and the rules do not specifically say that you can't. So it's kind of like an Airbud, as I see it (For context, it doesn't say that it's not allowed, so it could be interpreted as being allowed). You can do Ironman Mode in multiplayer and also you can't use console in multiplayer anyways. If multiplayer runs are eligible runs, this would make runs very, very easy.

To give an example, if I were to do an HRE run, that normally takes me about 7 and a half months. Most of that time is spent at war with Lombardy. If I did a multiplayer game. If I had my friend playing Lombardy then he could just surrender right after I declare war on him. Meaning that that would cut off 3-4 months off the run. It's the same situation with Stamford Bridge runs. Just have England immediately surrender and you're run is complete.

Now that I have gone over that, I would like to say that I think that they should be allowed, but they should have their own tab. I see this as a way to get multiple people into speedrunning CK2. Also, it adds some different strategies to runs. You could have your friend that your speedrunning with be a vassal (which is actually fun to do outside of speedrunning), or you could have them play as somewhere else to do specific things. I just like the Idea.

With all that being said, what are your opinions on this?

EDIT: the airbud context