Hello,

This topic has been brought up in the past. Though, not publicly. It's been talked about in our community discord and in twitch chat.

The point of this thread is to have an open discussion and to hear the thoughts of other members of the community about the matter.

It also directed as a request to our former Super Moderator @Rayquaza911 since he is the only one with the power to make a change.

To the point:

As some of you are aware, there exists another version of this game. It was only released on Game Boy Color in Europe as part of a Konami Collection with four popular Konami Game Boy games on it. The port to Game Boy Color took full advantage of the hardware upgrade. Not only does it feature full color, but also the faster clock speed of the GBC eliminates ALL lag from the game. As such, it is the fastest version to run.

Other than the colorization and lag difference, it is functionally the same as the original JP release (Cross subweapon)

It is estimated that running the GBC port saves around 20 seconds throughout the full run just on lag.

The problem, however. Which prevents us from having it as a category here, is that many years ago Rayquaza made a separate leaderboard for the "Konami GB Collection Vol. 4" title here on sr.c where it resides to this day. There are four games on the collection, and each game is a separate category. https://www.speedrun.com/konamigbv4 And yes, "Vol. 4", there were multiple collection games released with colorized versions.

Up until Lunatix's run was moved over there recently since they were running on that version, Ray's run was the only one on the board. So it has not been a popular version to run.

I feel, and I hope the community feels this way too, that it would be better to have the GBC port of Belmont's Revenge, moved from the Collection leaderboard to this board right here, as a separate category, since this is where people naturally go when it comes to Belmont's Revenge.

It would get more exposure over here for sure, and hopefully bring more runners in over time. If you search for "Belmont's Revenge" on sr.c, you will not find the "Konami GB Collection Vol. 4" board in your search at all. So unless you know it exists on this collection and you specifically search for that title, you will not find it. And I think that's a real shame since it has the potential for lowest time with the lack of game lag.

I hope others feel the way I do, that the game should be moved here. It just makes so much more sense.

Since the Collection board already exists, and Rayquaza is the Super Mod still over there. What I propose for him to do if people agree that it should be tracked over here instead is the following:

1. Allow us to create a category for this version over here.
2. Let us move the existing two runs to the newly created category here.
3. On the collection board, do one of the following:

A. Delete the category, post a link to our board in the forum section B. Keep the category, Remove all runs. Make a manual submission with the name of the player something like "Leaderboard_moved_Check_forum_for_info"

Let me hear peoples thoughts on this.

The much needed cleanup of the leaderboard is now complete.

You will now see two main tabs: NES and FDS to easily separate the NES from Famicom categories.

100% was also added for FDS. No change to Misc categories, they are still under misc.

Let me know if you have any further suggestions.

It's been 10 years since this hack got released and surprisingly it's been updated.

It does rebalance the game a little bit (notably allow you to continue from the guardhouse if you die, as well as allow you to stun guards with your fists before you get the sword)

Another notable addition which may be welcome for speedrunners is the ability to change direction without stopping while dashing with the boots. I tried it out a little bit and can be quite awesome for taking out some enemies quickly, works great against lanmolas for example! And of course great for traveling around the overworld.

Also you no longer take damage while boosting with bombs, allowing you to get cane of byrna early without needing a ton of hearts. And skip a climb of PT because you apparently can backtrack now..The ROM has also changed from slow- to fastrom, which should eliminate some lag. Only played up until Draegors castle so far myself but it feels like the slowdowns aren't as bad as before.

A Link to the Patch: http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,23339.html All changes are in the bottom of the readme.

Also note there's an additional bugfix-patch in the replies because there was a bug in Darunia where a door wouldn't open. (just apply on top of 1.2)

I don't speedrun this game currently, but I may in the future. Did light world for 12 hour challenge a while back.

Just wanted to let you guys know about the new version if you weren't already aware. And maybe discuss if it will be allowed, if so should probably change up the leaderboards to determine which version was used. And hey, maybe discuss possible new strats that can be used with the change to the pegasus boots etc.

Have fun and enjoy!