Do you mean sliding? Because you have barely enough time when you sprint to get a slide off.

"My largest complaint is with the inability to use the exotic items obtained from Sloan and Asher after completing their respective missions. This rule makes no sense."

This rule actually makes total sense because in order to re-obtain said items on the same character you must create a new account entirely. Now console players wouldn't have an issue with this but it almost completely rules out an PC runs since the exotics can provide a major advantage since PC players would have buy the game again for every new run for them to be able to acquire these again during the run. Therefore, they are not allowed in runs.

"My second issue with the rules is that they are written informally"

In this you are not wrong. The rules have no been revised structurally since when the game came out we were still learning a lot about how this game functioned vs the previous one. The rules how they are written out now simply haven't been revised but you are the first to bring it up so it didn't seem anyone else had any issue understanding them. Simple to fix small errors either way. I would also like to point out that the rule about tokens is actually irrelevant but it was written in such a way because it was copy pasted into the ruleset from a PM and hadn't been fixed to suit rules properly. Which is my bad.

"My next issue with the rules is with the New Game + category. Like the exotics rule, this makes no sense. There are no "starter" missions in Destiny 2; you start the game by being dropped straight into the "Homecoming" mission, and from there you're fully immersed in the Red War Campaign. For this reason, it makes no sense to start a run after you've already completed 3 of the main story missions (homecoming, adieu, and spark)"

Other game have started NG+ beyond the early 'tutorial' levels before. This is one of them. For multiple reasons we can't start NG+ any sooner than the Combustion mission. You can't get Xp until Adieu and fully leveling a character inside of Adieu would be a painfully long grind and no one would even run it. Ever. So for the sake of having a runnable NG+ it starts when you gain access to earth patrol so you can level in a reasonable amount of time to then start the run.

Thanks for pointing out some early structural issues with the rules though. It can be easily fixed.

No. It means not to add your character type to your run. So if you were a titan, don't put that you are titan.

It was voted to be allowed because they're extremely easy to obtain and without it (even with it) the run is incredibly luck based and long. So for the sake of reducing such luck and the fact that they are really cheap it was voted in. Like Lonne said, there is nothing stopping you from running without it.

It was a 10-0 vote in favor of being allowed to use the Fireteam medallion being allowed for use in New Game runs so go ahead and use them.

NG+ starts at Combustion. You land in EDZ and don't complete anything. You level up to 20, grab whatever you want and then start the run. Until this receives a change in the future (which it may not) this is how it has to be done.

As the title says, should it? The positives is it cuts down on the run length, reduces the amount of luck needed, and they are really cheap. You get one after every completed run and if you don't complete a run, they are only 50 bright dust from Eververse.

http://www.strawpoll.me/14112033

If you answer no, I would like to know why but you don't need to say why.

Yes, you do have to be together after you complete the spark. Would hardly be a duo/fireteam run if you guys were solo a large majority of the run.

Yeah. It's like they had a vendetta against us with this game. Most of the changes to running missions was done pretty much directly to deter us from being able to run.

It's better like this. If anything else gets added I can more easily add it and it's less clutter for the tab count.

I can only make rules by Solo/Duo/Fireteam. Can't separate NG and NG+ rules the way it's setup.

Take a look

Yes

Refer to my 2 stickied posts already on these forums.

There's also the alternate option to just do NG runs on an alt account.

No vault is a given but no vendor doesn't really do anything.

I'll be adding the ILs and the like here in the next few days. As many of you may know, I've been busy grinding seeing as how I'm really high on the power rankings right now.

PLEASE LEAVE THE NAME OF ADVENTURES AND MISSIONS IN THE REPLIES IF YOU REMEMBER ANY AS I DO NOT KNOW ALL THE NAMES. I WOULD PREFER IF YOU LISTED THEM IN THE ORDER YOU UNLOCK THEM

@Jate I removed all current beta runs since the game is so close.

@Martinez Your wipe screen being the screen that shows up after your entire team dies in a darkness zone.

So we've gone about deciding that timing in Destiny 2 will be different from previously due to Destiny 1's timer becoming more and more inaccurate as time goes passed.

So lemme start out by saying that the timer you see in game at the end of missions DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING! Yes! the timer you see in game literally does not matter. All timing will be done manually, and no, you don't need a timer on screen.

So before you say "Oh now PC has an unfair issue due to load time", no they don't and you will find out why soon. There will be things we will be manually taking out of your final time. These things will be: Mid mission loading screens, and cutscenes. Wipe screens will count towards your final time. Timing begins when you see your screen fade in at the mission start and time ends when mission complete appears on your screen

Update: Your final time on in game timer and full time flying in from orbit is required. The time shown on the timer still does not matter for your leaderboard positioning but this is to help our system to manually timing runs.

Any questions? Reply to this thread.

So this thread is about changes coming from D1 to D2 concerning leaderboard organization and rules:

1. Level leaderboards will be all map variants showing front page and modifier versions will be tucked away like it is now for Destiny 1. This is prevent complaints about things like strike times being unbeatable because of modifiers which I can understand the reasoning behind the complaints.

2. More things will be added as they are thought up.