Thanks a lot Lofty for reading our long posts and taking the time to think about it and discuss them. I hope the changes are for the best.

In my case, I'm really happy with those decisions and will certainly get back to the speedrun of the game soon :)

I'm still sure that because of this changes, more people could be interested in the game and it will be a really cool run to do in a race setup :)

See you on the green !

Hi Lofty,

Thanks for the answer.

Yep no problem, I don't want to come and change all the rules, I just wanted to talk about it to understand why they are in that actual state.

So, to answer you question : I don't think that setting the stroke count to 99 will lead to some reset fest with impossible tricks. For me there are two possibilities.

1. Yes, the runners will reset a lot and try harder tricks on their runs. So for a small amount of time, there will be a lot of reset fest runs. But the route is pretty optimised and the actual WR are pretty strong. So the runs with a lot of reset will not take the WR as they will loose too much time resetting again and again. UNTILL someone can do an awesome run with few resets with those crazy tricks. But with rules as hard as "12 stroke counter" nobody will attempt some new tricks.
2. The crazy strats are just too crazy and nobody will ever take the WR with a new routing, and so we don't really care if the time at the bottom of the grid includes reset fest. I mean, ALL the times are importants, but only the one at the top of the grid are importants for the new runners that want to take a look at the run and how it looks like.

And for the last point, I did not say that the run is impossible. I said that it's impossible to do somes races on the game at the moment. As a member of the Ultime Decathlon community, the race in speedruns are REALLY important to me. It's a wonderfull way to improve yourself and to learn some new strats. It's really usefull to keep the motivation and to keep learning. But in the actuel state. I would personally never attempt a race. It's too dangerous, you cannot attempt any risky strat. Well let's say one try per trick and then you have to backup on the normal strat that can be really long in comparison and so it ruins the race (I think to Jade Temple in this example :D). And even with the normal strat, you can still loose the map (like the trickshot with the big aim in jade temple).

Well that's it. I do understand why the rules are this way. I do understand that it's for the players to play on the exact same ruleset, but putting everyone with 99 is also the same ruleset and it will be better for newcommers to learn the game. It's important to be able to share your time in the leaderboard for some people to keep being motivate. :) And it's even more important on some small community like this one to avoid kicking out some new runners because of the rules.

But anyway, one more time, it was just to discuss this with you, let's keep it this way if the runners thinks it's better :)

Thanks for the answer mate ! :)

Hi there,

I'm starting to learn the SR of some tracks and I'm seriously questionning myself about the rules of the game.

Why are we forced to play with the default rules ? I mean the "12 shots an 2 minutes per hole" one.

I mean, I understand that these are the default rules of the game, but changing these does not change anything to the game right ?

It would permit to more people to access the game as some tricks are quite hard to setup. And way more important, in the actuel state of the SRC rules, it's quite impossible to do some races. One big mistake on ONE track means "reset". If it happens at the hole 17 ... well ... sorry but you just loose the race bro :D

What do you think about this ? Do you have any explainations for me ? :) Thanks <3

Just to let you know, I've quit the moderator team. I had no legitimity to be there as I had no time for the game. Maybe one of those day I'll take the time to do a new run !

Have fun guys <3

Thanks :)

I've added you as a super moderator ! Welcome and thanks for your help :)

Hi guys.

Really sorry I'm not present that much those time. And let's be honnest I will not have more time on the next weeks/months.

I'll let Nytheris handle the question and if he does not show up in the next days, i can had another moderator to the game :)

Sorry again for this :s

It's not a question of "keeping the reputation of the game", it's a question of "listening to your community". Guys, there are way more runners that did the "one loop" run than people that did the "any %" run.

Listen to you community, the worse that can happen is that you'll have tons of run that will come, it will put the light on SGNG and other people will come and start with the "one cycle" categorie untill they feel confident enough to do the any%.

You'll have new challengers, more people to SR the game, that probably means more people playing your game. What is wrong with that ?!? It does not mean AT ALL that your game will suffer from a kind of bad reputation and everyone will say "Haha SGNG ? Bah it's too easy ..."

I think it's really a shame not to listen to your community and stay stick together ... share your love for your game and accept new players ... :)

Fine, I've just added you as a super moderator ! :) Thanks for your help

I've created the category. Sorry for the delay.

I don't have a lot of time at the moment so if any of you want to be added as a moderator of the game, feel free to ask :)

Since I won't have time to check the 100% run, it'll help a lot :p