Can we include Luigi in the Speedrun.com Super Mario Bros. category in some way? I ask party because, I claim video to show The Luigi Quest World Record. Timing starts when JWILD gains control of Luigi and ends when Princess Toadstool says "Thank you Luigi. Your quest is over." Sincerely, JWILD

I see, by the moderator and KPC's attempt at trolling, that my run was not viewed favorably. I politely ask that they withdraw my run if and only if they create a "survivor, glitchless, deathless, all collectables," run. This game means a lot to me and would respect it if my wishes were met.

Anyone else want to add an itemless category maybe with individual levels? I'd love to see even just a Champion's Road itemless category (maybe by character?), and understand the idea of avoiding the creation of unnecessary categories. There seems to be a fair amount of people with videos relevant to this would-be category on youtube. I'm sorry if this has been covered already (I see that individual levels has).

I'm thinking of making a google doc guide to predicting certain 8-3 Hammer Bro behavior. It'd be nice to know what they do in which framerule, and for those of us who don't know what framerule we are on for whatever reason (inconsistency/too-lazy-to-do-live-splits) it might be helpful to put one up based on the firing patterns of cannons (for instance when the 1st cannon shoots left then right and then 2nd and 3rd cannons remain silent Mario can safely choose to go the TOP route at the second set of Hammer Bros.).

1. Does such a guide exist?
2. Am I correct that the patterns of cannon fire predict Hammer Bro behavior (assuming Mario doesn't slow down)?
3. Would this be useful? Any other input is welcome. Cheers, JWILD

I just wanted to make this available to anyone attempting the Bullet Bill glitch. It's the method that works best for me. It's just one alternative method (among many) to getting the Bullet Bill glitch on 8-2.

Cheers,

JWILD

Does anyone know where the framerule gets applied? Like, suppose you have 2 runs on 1-1, the first of which is a frame perfect 370 and the second of which is, say 6 or so frames behind and misses the frame rule (not sure if that's true but it feels about right). In theory there must be some point before the "Mario x 3" screen where the game actually "waits" for the remaining frames (approx 12-16 frames). It would have to be before that screen because otherwise splitting at that screen wouldn't be a good way to detect frame rule misses (and since Darbian and others split at that screen I imagine that's a good screen to do it). I have a feeling the game waitsi when the flag goes up, but I'm unsure... Any help appreciated. cheers, JWILD p.s. If I don't get any answers I'll post a follow up after checking frame-by-frame in imovie. Just wanted to see if anyone had a quick answer.