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Despite the apparent criticism, give it some time before reviewing the change.
Change will always take time for people to grow accustomed to, especially such a significant one.

My initial thoughts:
• 'Night Mode' has to become the default to allow full visual on custom game themes.
• If you guys are set on the 'one custom theme' route, white text and a black navigation bar seems the best default to avoid contrasting colors.
• Text font and size needs a re-look in my personal opinion, a comment above set out a nice alternative.
• Removing customization without an adequate replacement (scrolling up to see a banner) is somewhat disappointing.

QuivicoQuivico, ImaproshamanImaproshaman and ThermosporeThermospore like this. 

I'd like to add - thank you for your work on the site Pac, It doesn't go unappreciated! There is a bit of a mob/outrage culture these days, so I can only assume you are getting flooded with hate mail regarding the custom page theme changes. Don't be too hard on yourself about it! (though I still would like the custom themes to go back to the way they were lol)

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Looking at the streams page in list view still tries to display everything as a grid like in the screenshot below.


I am baffled how default light theme looks as eyesoaring as possible. I have absolutely no idea why would you lock layout "customisation" to night mode only (granted most people use night mode, but this seems like doubling-down on a "haha light theme users" meme) - add second customisation there!

Game "customisation" is completely non-existant if you use light theme, like, why?! Why can't you just force whoever enters game page to have their view changed to what's set ON A GAME PAGE, like it was before? If you don't like having "ugly" pages - make a toggle in a series menu or in a profile settings with "allow game themes to override your own" or something of that sort and never see them again!

I'm also completely didn't know that banner color change is only available for those who donated (that's what I'm getting from messages). That is such a bad move it makes me believe all the companies say about "PLAYER'S CHOICE" when add microtransactions to a game that shouldn't have them in first place! So - unless I'm getting something wrong out of this thread - at least custom preset of banner colors should be available for any user.

As for UI and font changes - I like those. But all that customisation issues that you have can be fixed with literally one flag (I know that's more code than just 1 line, but that won't make 90% of userbase mad or at least upset).

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Nice, but why are we having green text on black in Night Mode? Would be better if the text was all-white like it used to be; easier to read.


+1-2 font size on almost all text would be good.


The dark red on black (on the Banjo-Kazooie page) looks even worse than the green on mobile. We need white or bright-colored text in Night Mode.


After messing around with the custom themes settings, I really like the new update actually (I don't like custom background but they should be added back in tbh). Here's how good I was able to make it look:

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Should've at least kept some of the customization already done, seeing as you're clearly now moving towards the direction of allowing some customization.

This honestly feels poorly thought out and executed, not to mention how crappy it feels to have the themes you've diligently and proudly worked on perfecting for so long just tossed out, for seemingly no reason other than that other's themes aren't as thoughtfully put together.

The best thing now would be to revert and make the new layout opt-in only. Continue then to take suggestions from the community and fine tune it until it's eventually ready to push out onto everyone.

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@MakkerDonMakkerDon yeah, I'm aware haha. I mostly meant that part as a joke. Even still, that's why many websites detect the user's location and show the regional spelling.


I’d maybe make the icons and fonts slightly thicker to see it easier. But otherwise then that it looks amazing!

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Was there a need for this? The old layout was good, and the customization options were something I really appreciated. I can get used to the new layout, but please bring themes back. Why would you intentionally delete people's work and remove a widely-used feature of your website?

EDIT: Looking at it more, I like the new layout already. Still upset about custom themes, though.

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To people complaining about the "Green", you can change that along with other things to make it more appealing to you. The only thing really missing now is the backdrop and that's just fine if it means the site looks cleaner overall. A lot of backdrops weren't exactly the greatest and could deter some newcomers due to their favourite game site looking hideous.

I will say though that it would be cool if there was a tick-box added into user settings to be able to view backdrops as some people have personal attachments to the backdrop of their favourite game and they are mostly already seasoned runners. That way only people who wouldn't see them are people less familiar with the site.

Another note, it would visually in my opinion be better if the header at the top changed to blue if you switch to night mode by default. The colour pattern just works better.

Edit: Oh, nevermind, I wasn't aware you can't edit your theme unless you've donated.


SRC was such a unique design till this change. I honestly don't know if there was really a need for light mode. The colors doesn't help it either (whether its green or not considering the framework that you are using).

I am not sure if my assumption is correct on the framework, but there was really no need for boostrap framework. The layout was fine the way it was not to mention it was also much better for eyes. Because of that, the site looks more of mobile app or any common social media site rather than an actual leaderboard.

Saying "very few of them actually looked good" is basically fueling the fire causing you to have more stingy comments.

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I'm agreeing with everything above, love the update, everything looks more professionnal, but bring the custom backgrounds back ><

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Removing themes in my humble opinion was a terrible idea, especially with what it was replaced with.

I think (more logically) if you wanted a more "streamlined" look, and if the backend allowed it, why not do as you did, but create a specific toggle for THAT? You could have setup some kind of toggle that streamlined the layout and forced a specific background / text colours, etc to a default, without actually stripping communities the individualism that made this website very unique to browse through.

Other changes: welcomed.

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A few things:

1. Please put night mode by default. Light mode looks too different from what the site used to look like, and most people prefer dark sites. Keep light mode as an option for people who do like it.

2. Allow users to change the colors of the top bar when logged in, or change it to something that is easier to read than green on green. Green on a dark bar, or similar would be MUCH better.

3. Allow for the custom banners, maybe a custom icon for moderators (seriously, the sword doesn't make sense for any game I've ever ran), a second color, or some other non-obtrusive theming options. I understand reasons for removing the backgrounds, but some of the things that were removed weren't problematic on even the ugliest boards I've seen.

4. What size is the banner, really? You wrote in another post that you can "make it any size and it'll resize automatically" but it's much easier to make something that looks good if we know how tall and wide it's supposed to be.

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Appears to be a bug with the navbar (black) option also. I have it selected currently after removing my colour to test a few things and my navbar is still green: (it's been saved with the (black) option selected)

It doesn't seem to work unless you input a colour. If the colour field is blank, this option doesn't seem to do anything.

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