The idea of this thread is simple, if someone notable (or not notable) is banned and you know why (whether or not you were actually involved in getting them banned) but others may not, post about it here so that other moderators can be made aware and revisit the banned person’s runs. Since site staff have refused to implement any kind of policy when it comes to transparency and cheaters, we will have to make it a community driven effort. This thread can also be used to discus cheating in general and the way cheating is handled on speedrun.com.

If you want my personal opinion as a game moderator, cheating should be a ban reason that is displayed publicly. They could even have an automated system where all the cheater’s runs are automatically rejected if they are permanently banned, and are reinstated if the ban is overturned. This way, the burden of figuring out which of the cheater’s runs are legit does not fall to game moderators and no permanent damage is done if a ban later turns out to be false. The penalty for cheating should be immediate (but not irreversible) removal of all runs, public shaming, and being banned from submitting runs ever again. This is just my opinion though.

Well Known Cheaters:

@7H3 - Banned for cheating (as far as I know)
@Jaypin88Jaypin88 - Was banned for stealing Sonic runs, was allowed back on the site by site staff.
@DreamWasTakenDreamWasTaken - Cheated multiple Java RSG runs, was banned from the Java community but never on the site.
@Bluely - Banned for cheating in Google Snake (I think)

Users Banned from Geometry Dash: - Thanks @WalgreyWalgrey
@7H3 - you know who it is
@kostia_982 - faked a 1-8 run (If I remember correctly, no-clip was used)
@FireflameGamesYTFireflameGamesYT - cheated a SubZero run
@Mikeltxo751 - stole someone else's run
@FlubyFans000FlubyFans000 - stole someone else's run
@mootumootu - speedhacked a run
@BoyYellowBoyYellow - spliced and edited several Meltdown runs in retaliation to me not retiming the run to make them first place
@MrCodicMrCodic - speedhacked a 1-8 run, privately admitted to speedhacking the run. not banned, but definitely can't be trusted
@Geometry_dash222 - stole a Meltdown run
@RyanFitzmorris - edited a 1-8 run
@FaZeEnderCreeper - idk
@Ender_Man967Ender_Man967 - faked a Google Snake run

Misc Cheaters
@IucasTheWolfSG - Use of some sort of hacked client (thanks @TuttereyTutterey )
@shlok - stole a seterra run (thanks @ViperViper )
@TheDictorsTheDictors - cheated a couple Escapists 2 Multitool World Records (thanks @SkittlesCat83 )
@timbos468 - Using mods (thanks @Merl_Merl_ )
@TheDrwinsitos - Spliced multiple runs on Roblox games (thanks @ElimsElims )

I think a thread like this has already been made but who cares, it's worth bringing back

https://www.speedrun.com/mcbe/thread/5cuo8 here's a good start, the list of banned players from Minecraft: Bedrock Edition

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The penalty for cheating should be immediate (but not irreversible) removal of all runs, public shaming, and being banned from submitting runs ever again.

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This way, the burden of figuring out which of the cheater’s runs are legit does not fall to game moderators

@DreamWasTakenDreamWasTaken Cheating for content

@HiHi that is why I said “(but not irreversible)” also we do not know which runs are legit. There in lies the problem, a cheater could’ve been doing it for 1 run or hundreds of runs. They already lied once when submitting a fake run, who’s to say they won’t again?

People who want to come back are generally unbanned. In the system I am proposing if a cheater is unbanned, their runs are reinstated. So this does not eliminate cheaters who redeem themselves and come back to the site.

@timbos468 is the only person I've caught intentionally cheating in any of the games I mod. He cheated by using mods to improve his times. He was caught, given a second chance, and then got caught cheating in another game. I don't know if he still speedruns, but I would advise people to be very careful when examining his runs. I don't believe any of the runs on his profile currently are faked, I rejected all of the suspicious times.

public shaming?

bro. relax.

They did something wrong, and unless there is some kind of moderator forum made then there is nothing better to do.

Originally posted by diggity
public shaming?

bro. relax.

cheaters should be marked.

easy as that.

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In the system I am proposing if a cheater is unbanned, their runs are reinstated.

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cheaters should be marked. easy as that.

virgin leaderboard mod collection vs chad leaderboard ban collection

Pretty much yeah.

I do like your idea @HiHi but that is not currently possible and the next best thing is just displaying the ban reason.

The thing about the auto run rejection system is not necessarily true, if a user is banned for cheating it would get all runs submitted by them, place them in an array, then loop through and change all their status to "rejected", the reason to "Banned for Cheating" and rejecter to "Speedruncom". Same goes the other way, when a user is unbanned it checks for all runs by that user that are rejected with the reason "Banned for Cheating" by Speedruncom and simply change their status to "verified" again. Also, you can't change your name or access your settings while you are banned (at least according to @LorLor ).

Leaderboards operate primarily on trust. Cheating breaks that trust. A cheater left to continue submitting runs is invalidating all leaderboards they get accepted to. Even if someone cheated ONCE. YEARS AGO. THEY WERE REEEEEEEEALLY SORRY, and were never "caught" again, it's still not enough. Too many runs can be cheated with no one ever knowing. This is why verification is more a formality for checking that rules are being followed. Sure sometimes a mod will catch a cheated run, but the fact that WRs have stood for years in the past and never got caught shows that it's easy to get away with. Break that trust, you shouldn't be allowed to submit runs.

If they're just really passionate about speedrunning, and doing so legitimately and competitively, they can still do so without ruining a leaderboard for everyone else. Or they could submit under a different account (not that I condone this, but it's an option). They would never take that route because just like they cheated in the past for clout, they would feel the need to run "legit" for clout as well. Unfortunately there's no way around it. If you want to submit to leaderboards as yourself, don't cheat. I've been saying this for years now. I'll just refer to this post in the future should it ever come up again.

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Last I checked, individual leaderboard bans weren't a thing, are they now?

I'm just going to refer to my post from a thread I made a few weeks ago as I find that to be probably the best solution to all of this.

Originally posted by Hi Instead of getting banned from the website as a whole, what if you could separate getting banned on the forums from getting banned from submitting runs? what could be done instead is ban that person just from the forums while allowing them to still submit runs, and viceversa too; if there's a player that cheated in the past they should get banned from the leaderboards but still be allowed to talk on the forums.

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A cheater, while breaking the moderators' trust, doesn't deserve to be put in a read-only state forever in my opinion, I feel like that's just a little too much.

No they should

Did Dream get banned on the entire website? No.
Did he cheat (at least) 2 runs in RSG? Yes.