Super Smash Bros. Melee Forum  /  Issues with the Level Leaderboards
  NordanixNordanix
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Hey guys! So I've recently started a couple of days ago speedrunning some Event Matches and since then I noticed a couple of issues with the Level Leaderboards that I think should be looked at.

Keep in mind these are just my personal opinions and suggestions to get some discussion started. Feel free to let me know what you guys think as well.

Issue
1. "Ravenyte" is 1st place on 13 of 10-Man Melee categories without any video proof.

2. "pyh189" is 1st place on all 25 categories of 100-Man Melee without any video proof.

3. "Kaneda_Charles" is top 3 on plently of Event Matches with video proof looking like this:
I personally think that video proof means an actual video of the run and not just a couple of screenshots in the format of a video. If this is accepted then the rules will need to reflect of this.

4. Target Test, 10-Man Melee and 100-Man Melee has no rules at all.

5. IL's are submitted with "Real Time" as opposed to "In-game Time" which is confusing for new runners and yet there is nothing in the rules that state this.

Suggestions & Fixes
1. Add Rules To:
• Target Test
• 10-Man Melee
• 100-Man Melee

2. Update Rules To Include: "Real Time is used when submitting IL's".

3. All Runs Should Require Video Proof

4. Add Video Proof For "Ravenyte" and "pyh189":
"Ravenyte" with all characters except for Mewtwo which is done by "pyh189": https://archive.org/details/SSBM_10mm_Aug04

"pyh189" 100-Man Melee runs: https://archive.org/details/SSBM_100mm_Dec04

5. Remove All Runs Without Video Proof

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  slippy318slippy318
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Hey, nordanix, thank you for giving your feedback and opinions on this matter. We appreciate all the input. Now to address these issues.

The runs from Ravenyte and pyh189 are legit. Videos of their times exist, they just haven't been linked on the site yet. This has been the case long before I became a mod of this game. It's something I've been meaning to do, but just haven't gotten around to it because of how busy my personal life has been lately. This will be one of the 1st things I'll change. I'm gonna make sure all their runs are linked.

As for the RTA vs IGT issue, I know it's a problem. The leaderboards were cluttered with submissions that were in 1 or the other. I recently changed it to make it so they all appeared under 1 timing slot, with the intention of taking off the IGT slot, making it so there's only 1 submission area that just says "Time." However, I wasn't sure how to do this without making all the IGT times across the entire game go away, so I didn't try for fear of messing the whole game up. For now, the easy fix will be to state in the rules how to submit runs. I will have to change all the times to In-Game-Time in the future if this continues to be a big issue.

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  slippy318slippy318
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As for Kaneda Charles's runs, they've been removed. He was a trusted member of the community, but we can't continue to make exceptions for people. Rules are rules.

Once again, thank you for the input. I'll be discussing all these things with the other mods more in depth, and more changes will be coming in the future.

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  NordanixNordanix
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Thank you! I really appreciate that you listened and took my feedback into consideration. I'm looking forward to the changes!

 
  slippy318slippy318
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No problem. We're always willing to hear feedback, and possibly take it into consideration if it's agreed apon.

I just hope this doesn't deter anyone from submitting runs. It's nothing personal against people like Kaneda_Charles. We were actually gonna keep his runs up (except the the 1st place ones), but not allow runs like that going forward. Looks like he himself ended up deleting them all.

 
  NordanixNordanix
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I just noticed a wrongly submitted run on the 10-Man Melee leaderboards. Demon9 currently is the 1st place on the Link category but with video of his Pichu run.

See the submission in question here: https://www.speedrun.com/ssbm/run/8y89xlxm

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  NordanixNordanix

There's another wrong submitted run for 10-Man Melee.

Ravenyte is 1st for Pichu but his video proof is with his Pikachu.

See the submission in question here: https://www.speedrun.com/ssbm/run/pzgn0vjy

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