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Well, I dont know if this was one of those category that alredy exist before in the leaderboard and been removed, but yeah, I give here the idea I just randomly remember now Basicaly the idea of finish the game as fast as posible like in Any%, but beign in a started count Well, want to know what mods and the comunity think about the category idea, ifmaybe is a good idea or if maybe there is a reason to doesnt be liked or something like that, and by the way there you have if someone look it like good idea want to run it |
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so to clarify: you start from a luncheon file then go back to cap/cascade and touch 5 moons go to next kingdom etc. this sounds hard to keep track of moons |
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@Cursed1701Cursed1701 no no, you start in a completed file, and do that of NG+ in all the kingdoms, inclusive including in Bowser´s Kingdom And, yeah, to do a nice run, maybe can be hard to keep nice th track of the moons; in all case, that make the category very interesting to practice it and to run it, no? |
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do you have any intention of running this category? right now the rules sound very very open and not perticularly well defined |
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Yeah, we should probably have to clarify/definify bettter the rules before |
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“definify” |
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Okey, im also not good conjugating verbs okey? XD |
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Just kidding bro it’s aight |
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So essentially, it would be like this: - Use a file that is complete through at least the Any% route Am I right on this? If so, I've got two questions. If moons can be recollected, how can you verify that someone isn't cheating? I feel like maybe the moons need to be new moons. Especially, since the moon rock moons exist for this kind of run. The other question, is the order of kingdoms strict? If you make it so they have to go to the Odyssey after each kingdom that could make it linear, however, it might be more enjoyable to leave it open to those that want to use the paintings to warp to each kingdom since every kingdom except Ruined can be accessed through the paintings. Once those two are worked out, I wouldn't mind doing a run to see how I feel about it. It sounds fun to me. Could be a fun 248 moon category (since you would already have 124 from Any%). |
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Lost and Moon can't be accessed through paintings either |
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@RampantEpsilonRampantEpsilon it would be kinda dumb collecting new moons when someone already has them all and he does not want to beat the any% category yet again so i think collected moons should count even when the musician moons cant be collected again but in metro there are 64 moons which makes metro being the second kingdom with the most power moons |
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@RampantEpsilonRampantEpsilon For the first one, well, im not sure of that of "cheating" and what did you mean can be do it as cheat, so pls explain me; but, in all case, yeah, the moon rocks are there In respect of the second one, until if is in a maxed counted, being like an Any% but in NG+ , yeah, I think you have to continue the exact order of the worlds, only skipping the ones without moons And, betwen, should be probably very nice, but why 248 I hope this answered all your questions, in except of the idea of the cheat |
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@Crafty12345Crafty12345 okey: 1) This is based on get the moons in NG+ , and, I dont know if you realice, or maybe i forgot something, I dont know, but there are no moons needed in cap XD ; so, yeah, in this NG+ there is no reason to go to Cap, is useless cause you doesnt have to do nothing there 2) Okey, so doesnt gt those story moons |
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What I meant by cheating, was say someone has max moons and max coins fixing to do an Any% NG+ run. They could in theory splice the best times they got for each kingdom across multiple attempts because there wouldn't be a good failsafe to catch them on it. Since there's 880 total moons in the game, I felt that maybe treating this as a post Any% would be the better option since you can track newly aquired moons. After thinking more about this, you could state in the rules for it something like, the coin count must be below XXXX coins for verification purposes. However, that might be a slight inconvenience before starting a run. I say slight, because you could just kill Mario repeatedly to lower the count if needed. As far as running it in order of the kingdoms, I think I can understand why you want that to be in order like the main game since this would be Any% NG+. Perhaps if people like this we could look at splitting into No Paintings and Paintings? (Mainly because I like the thought that new routes could be comprised for this that might not follow even Dark/Darker Side routing.) @Crafty12345Crafty12345 The only way I think starting with Cap should happen is if you make the player go to the top of the hat and complete a moon up there. However, I kinda feel like this is redundant since this is an Any% NG+ and NG+ runs don't always follow the strict rules of the main category. |
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Okey, so I run it I advice I do something strange in the odyssey map to go in good order going also first to lake tan to wooded Betwen there is separated in 2 videos because my mobile separe it if have a duration of more tan 33:07 , so f Maybe help someone to understand by the way In fine, there is it ps: i got a fail in the PC and lost the splits… f |
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This category actually sounds pretty fun. I may give it a try this weekend. Gives me something to do on my 100%'d casual file, and lets me experience something similar to Any% but without cutscenes. Routes would probably be significantly different in some kingdoms. I watched a little bit of your run and noticed that seed moons are very good, as they're basically just a bunch of free moons right next to each other. Some questions about rules: Can you collect a moon more than once? For example, can I grab the three seed moons in Sand Kingdom, warp to the Plaza checkpoint, and then grab the three seed moons again? I assume not. That would be pretty lame. And what about shop moons? Are those banned? Can I buy one from each kingdom? Can I buy 10 from each kingdom? 20? Obviously it would be really lame to just start a run with 9999 coins, buy 20 shop moons in each kingdom, and then go fight Bowser. So this is something we probably need to clarify in the rules. One thing that sounds annoying is having to keep track of my moons, since the HUD isn't going to keep track of it for me. But at least it's not as bad as Hardcore Talkatoo%, where you literally have to do math to make sure you have the right number of moons. And yes, this run will probably be annoying to verify. The mod will have to count each moon and make sure you don't break any rules. But again, Talkatoo% is probably still worse to verify, and that's my favorite category, so... |
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@Ocarinist_DrewOcarinist_Drew nice! GL in your run - No, I also think it in some, but, well, until if you take it, each moon only count for once in this category, so nope, if not it should be very OP in some cases yeah XD - Well, at least 1 for each shop you can take, but I wasnt think on the infinites… - And, yeah, well, is not the first time I hear that of thye track, probably Will be a realy hard part of the any% NG+ ; in all case, by the momento you just have to be good with that and move it nice; in fine, in all case, inclusive that hard add to the category can make it realy interesting, no? And, yeah, also realice before about of that, sometimes will be hard to count it for the verification, true (ps: stop comparing with hardcore talkatoo% that at this point they should finish deleting it for the leaderboard because of anoying verification XD) |
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Another question: What's the deal with Hint Art moons? If I grab Found With Dark Side Art 1, located in Cascade Kingdom, does it count towards my 5 Cascade moons? What if I grab Found With Lake Kingdom Art (also located in Cascade Kingdom)? Does that count towards my Cascade moons or my Lake moons? Or both? or neither? |
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@Ocarinist_DrewOcarinist_Drew for the last question: |