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Super Mario Bros. Forum  /  I found a glitch and want some help

SamTheMan777SamTheMan777

(He/Him)

North Brabant, Netherlands

  SamTheMan777SamTheMan777
24 Oct 2021, 20:22

I just found a glitch on 5-1 where in mario jumped on to 2 goombas which was in a stack of 3. And I clipped in the ground but I suddenly jumped out. Is the anyway that this is faster than jumping the rest or can this improve times?

 

tobithdtobithd

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Lower Austria

  tobithdtobithd
24 Oct 2021, 21:45

Did you play on the European version of smb? Ground clips are only possible on pal what I know

 

WolfAeterniWolfAeterni

Québec

  WolfAeterniWolfAeterni
24 Oct 2021, 21:48

Yup, definitely some PAL shenanigans

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SMBisticSMBistic

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Philippines

  SMBisticSMBistic
24 Oct 2021, 23:20 (edited: 24 Oct 2021, 23:20)

If it wasn't on pal we can probably FFPG but yeah im 99% sure that's on PAL

 

tdiogo_gamertdiogo_gamer

(He/Him)

São Paulo, Brazil

  tdiogo_gamertdiogo_gamer
25 Oct 2021, 01:30

probably PAL

 

AbellaBrothers1AbellaBrothers1

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Philippines

  AbellaBrothers1AbellaBrothers1
25 Oct 2021, 08:21

I think it's PAL too...

 

periwinkleperiwinkle

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United States

  periwinkleperiwinkle
25 Oct 2021, 16:15

And just for the record, PAL is much slower than NTSC for warpless, even if you could somehow pull off a full flagpole glitch on every level. So there isn't any theoretical time that could be saved by switching to PAL.

 

SavirTheSpeedrunnerSavirTheSpeedrunner

(He/Him)

India

  SavirTheSpeedrunnerSavirTheSpeedrunner
25 Oct 2021, 17:11

Why don’t we use PAL NES for Any% runs? You can do many glitches which you can’t do on NTSC which save time, so that’s easy timesave then why don’t we use PAL NES to play?

 

SavirTheSpeedrunnerSavirTheSpeedrunner

(He/Him)

India

  SavirTheSpeedrunnerSavirTheSpeedrunner
25 Oct 2021, 17:13

Is it because it runs on a less framerate or something which makes it slower in timing?

 

ultra_existsultra_exists

(He/Him, They/Them)

Ireland

  ultra_existsultra_exists
25 Oct 2021, 17:23

Without TAS FFPGs the fastest time is a 5:01.9, iirc you need 2 FFPGs to get sub 5 on PAL

 

PexxioPexxio

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Bulgaria

  PexxioPexxio
25 Oct 2021, 18:21 (edited: 25 Oct 2021, 18:21)

Pal runs at about 50fps and ntsc runs at about 60. While pal tas is faster, the ffpg inputs are hardly feasible for a human and definitely not feasible for a full game run so in the end ntsc is faster.

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SavirTheSpeedrunnerSavirTheSpeedrunner

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India

  SavirTheSpeedrunnerSavirTheSpeedrunner
25 Oct 2021, 18:23 (edited: 25 Oct 2021, 18:24)

@PexxioPexxio thanks lol I just exactly at that time asked why and you answered me, so basically PAL runs on less framerate and that’s why it’s slow am I right?

 

SavirTheSpeedrunnerSavirTheSpeedrunner

(He/Him)

India

  SavirTheSpeedrunnerSavirTheSpeedrunner
25 Oct 2021, 18:25

Thx anyway 🙂

 

PexxioPexxio

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Bulgaria

  PexxioPexxio
25 Oct 2021, 20:50

yes exactly

 
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