Shiren 1 DS: Time Attack mode time submission.
4 years ago
Colorado, USA

I don't have a video because I played on the NDS which is much harder to record. I've tried playing on an emulator and every time I try to record it and even during normal gameplay, it lags and stutters and makes the game(s) unplayable.

The rules linked only apply to the SFC release of the game. The NDS port has many changes that completely change how the game is played.

I played the Time Attack mode from the main menu which allows the player to carry in one item. I chose to carry in a Jar of Holding [5] with the most OP gear possible. Kabra Reborn (every seal) Windshield (every seal) Wooden Arrows (80 - 90 stack, un-used) Armband of Sight Blank Scroll: Removal (for the final boss)

There should probably be 3 categories for Table Mountain: Story, Time Attack (no items), Time Attack (any items).

Time Attack mode plays differently than the story and I previously posted on the forums about some of the problems with the categories as they are.

My in-game time displays as 20:03 because a stupid time attack rule where you have to collect 10,000 Gitan (currency) or be penalized 10 minutes. Though going out of my way to collect 10,000 Gitan seriously slows down the run and defeats the purpose of playing fast. The penalty is garbage and I choose to log my actual time. Run 1: Carried in 9,999 Gitan https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545194323172392980/617622737417928704/IMG_20190901_013204275.jpg

Run 2: Didn't carry in Gitan. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545194323172392980/617627080221261836/IMG_20190901_014922129.jpg

The dungeon names listed are almost all wrong as well.

  • Table Mountain (Main-story) Table Mountain (with items) Table Mountain (without items) *Tainted Path (Continuation of the main story dungeon, missing)
  • Ceremonial Cave (NDS exclusive, missing)
  • Ravine of the Dead (NDS exclusive, missing)
  • Kitchen God (Food-gimmick dungeon, plays differently than the SFC. Allows pre-leveling.)
  • Scroll Cave (Trap-gimmick dungeon, plays differently than the SFC. Allows pre-leveling.)
  • Fay's Final Puzzle
  • (Main Menu > Time Attack) Table Mountain (with items) Table Mountain (without items)
Colorado, USA

I got my shield wrong. The Windshield is a rare shield that can be transformed into a more powerful version, the Stormward. (Same goes for my Weapon, the Kabra's Blade can be transformed into a Kabra Reborn.)

I am not a moderator, but I would like to mention that no one talks about Japanese rules. As you say, this is the rule of SFC. In Japan, RTA (speedrun) of DS is seldom running, so the rules of SFC are written as they are. The SFC rules are based on the premise of not using an emulator or analyzing a PC and have been discussed and maintained for over 10 years. I think this rule is the most perfect.

Since it is rarely run on the DS, the DS rules are not made on the page listed. The two are considered completely different. As you say, we need to create new rules and make them not to be confused with the SFC version. I think it would be better for you to submit your DS records first. I'm not familiar with the situation outside of Japan, but in Japan, devices that capture images by electrically connecting NDS are sold online. This is called Nisetro Capture (偽トロキャプチャ). And it is very expensive (over 30,000 yen). If possible, I would like you to post a video using these devices. (I'm not sure if you can use it outside Japan, so please check the risks of using it by yourself.)

Finally, it is about the writing. I think many of them have already been fixed, but I think the English translation of the patch is used for what is different from the NDS description. As you know, the SFC version is not published in English, so someone has created an English translation patch for the emulator. Since the NDS version is official, we should use the words, but it is not unusual that what appears in SFC does not actually exist in NDS or has a different notation. The notation problem is one that should eventually be solved, but I hope you will forgive some confusion.