Baltimore, MD, USAI think it would make sense to wait until emulator becomes a viable thing to discuss whether or not to allow it so that we have the proper context of the situation
Edit: Also, emulators are usually banned for any recent game regardless of how accurate they are for verification and legal reasons so it would be a very long while until emulators are considered acceptable for this game.
It's likely you were banned for a different reason
I submitted a WR to https://www.speedrun.com/Mario_Kart_DS_N64_Circuit/full_game a month and half ago, I tried contacting the mod and they told me they "don't want anything to do with that shit" and then removed their contact links. I'd like to be added as a mod to that game, or at least have my run verified
(I would also suggest removing them from any other role as a solo mod they might have)
I've been waiting for a month and a half on this one: https://www.speedrun.com/Mario_Kart_DS_N64_Circuit/run/yvj9784y
I tried contacting the mod, apparently they "don't want anything to do with that shit", so I need a bit of outside help here
If setting up a timer is a problem for you I'd suggest you just skip that part
good thing this game has an emulator verison
Search "new super mario bros rom" and click on the first thing
If you choose "record video" it records in real time
[quote]Since when did protecting the oh-so-delicate feelings of our runners become our top priority?[/quote]
Generally when running a community it's important to keep everyone from having a miserable experience.
[quote] And the worst part is that you admit that people who think that way are wrong and yet you still side with them.[/quote]
He admits that he disagrees, but he can't change the minds of potentially hundreds of people. People are going to turn away if they can't submit any run without a video no matter whether or not they're wrong to do it. I think the reasonable thing to do is to ban it after a certain threshold so that people can get into it, and invest in buying a capture card if they want to keep at it.
What is the issue? It's not lag, because lag doesn't give emu players an advantage. It's not inaccuracies, because there are no inaccuracies that give emu players an advantage. It shouldn't be simply the fact that it's an unofficial console, because if the above are true it's literally the exact same game, and even though the use of emulators is "illegal" (let's be honest, it's not a very strictly enforced law) if you don't own a copy, the speedrun itself doesn't change. It's still a speedrun of the same game performed by a human with video proof. So it makes no sense that a Ieaderboard for speedruns would reject a run not because it's cheated, or because it doesn't follow the rules, but because it's played on an unofficial console.
The loads seem a bit slower for emulator than console by around two frames EDIT: Around one frame actually
"The problem with that is that even if the new3ds version isn't accurate to ds, it doesn't matter because it's an official version."
That's not the point. I used the New3DS argument only to show why the burden of proof is not on me, because it gives a different perspective of the same situation. It doesn't matter whether or not there'd be any actual debate on banning New3DS.
"We know for a fact that desmume isn't perfect and that no emulator will ever be, for the simple reason that they'll always require a good enough PC to run them."
This implies that the only problem is lag. If the reason is that you can only use an emulator without experiencing lag on a good PC, then there shouldn't be a problem. Lag gives someone a disadvantage, and desmume is known for having very little lag anyway.
"Every DS, WiiU, 3DS, etc. has the same specs on the inside and we know that they'll always be capable of running the game correctly because the game was made to run on them."
So then we should ban the WiiU version. The game wasn't made to run on WiiU, so by that logic it's literally impossible for it to be accurate. The WiiU is just emulating the game after all, it's not the official release.
If there is an advantage to be gained by using emulator, then it should be restricted in some way. But I don't see any inaccuracies except lag, let along advantages.
The burden of proof is not on me. It doesn't make sense to try and prove that every single facet of the emulator version is accurate to the console. The burden of proof is on the side that changes the status quo. If the burden of proof is on me to prove that emulator is inaccurate, then I can say "the New3DS version should be banned because it's inaccurate" and instead of me providing evidence for my claim I have everyone else try to prove that nothing is inaccurate about it. Instead of proving something to be true (it is accurate) it makes more sense to prove something to be false (it is not accurate). So, I need to know how it's inaccurate before I would even start trying to prove anything.
You can connect a controller.
There are two ways you can button mash - moving your thumb back and forth across the A and B buttons or placing your fingers on them and alternating button presses. They both give you about the same amount of speed. You have to use the finger method for keyboard. There is no difference in speed because your fingers are still moving at the same pace; the size of the buttons don't matter.
Could someone provide examples of inaccuracies between emulator and console that give emulator an advantage?
