SRT 1.3 Yay or Nay?
6 years ago
Sweden

@jakef1891

I promise you Magnum% is a hell of alot more fun then a bunch of resets.

Edit: And you can still submit it to Any%. With the WR being so low + the 1min ish time difference + good RNG you would be able to beat your current Any% run.

What I was trying to say is that getting the magnum is not that big of a deal since most people would be able to beat there GL PB

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Missouri, USA

@darazonjoll i can assure you its not fun to me. i know the route and run the route. i want a good time in any% and the magnum will do nothing but mess up muscle memory for me.

Japan

I am sorry, my opinion is NO.

I do not know when the grenade launcher will come out next time, so I think that continuing the game even if the luck element is bad somewhat.

If I know that grenade launcher surely comes out next time, I think that resetting will occur frequently, desiring a better luck element.

Such a characteristic makes the completion of the game difficult in reverse, I think that there is a danger that it makes people who watch the game boring.

As a result, I think that it will reduce the appeal of Resident Evil 3.

allancg likes this
Missouri, USA

i think the opposite keny. having the basement immediately followed by the locker usually drives people away from the game. ive had multiple people tell me they dont want to run re3 for the specific reason of the locker. most viewers want to see completed runs or alot of a run. not reset after reset after reset. this fix will increase appeal of running the game and overall interest in seeing the run.

Ceará, Brazil

I'm against

Definitely no!

England

Some great points brought up so far, especially by Furry who covered one or two things I hadn't considered. I appreciate the frustration of getting the Magnum over and over (and it's already been covered that Mag% was created for this reason) but isn't changing the RNG of the game to give a preferable result a dangerous precedent to set?

Germany

@the_dude2618

you are not getting a better time. Getting the G Launcher everytime would not effect your time in an actual run since you reset the game when you get the Magnum. All the SRT would serve for is that runners wouldn´t have to constantly reset´when they get the magnum.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
England

Would you not concede it is a dangerous precedent to set?

Runners are not currently forced to reset the game when they get the Magnum, they simply choose to do so rather than running the Magnum route. We are not talking about a manipulation of the game's code to get around a game-breaking glitch, simply one to save people having to reset.

Mississippi, USA

Ok, here is what I am seeing. The current active runners are all saying yes. People who have never even ran this game should not have a say in whether this this gets passed or not. They do not run the game, why should they say how it should be played? Who cares about all the technicalities of cheating? If someone really wanted to cheat they would fucking do so! Another point no one has mentioned is if this tool gets out and it's supposed to be it's own category there would be no way to tell the difference from an any% run. Everyone would just have to abide by an honor system, which does not work. This should not be allowed for just mods to vote on. It should be up to active runners. Mods can easily just gate keep their time. For everyone saying magnum is not a run killer. You do not know what you are talking about. It is a different route, different menuing, different muscle memory. Lastly, if Komakino says its wrong then you know it's right. Kappa

Orchlon and KaitoProject like this
Missouri, USA

i agree with blane. talking with dchaps he said that it would be possible to make it distinguishable if someone is using the srt or not. he is saying that he could say change the color of the evidence locker itself to make it noticeable whether someone is using it or not. so making it its on category is actually a viable option now

KaitoProject likes this
Japan

It is certainly the worst experience that Magnum comes out at the S.T.R.S office. In such a case, it is not once or twice that I hated the developers of Capcom.

However, the problem of the occurrence frequency of the grenade launcher can be improved to some extent by researching how to enter the zombies hardly to be detected in the basement, or reducing the damage by emergency avoidance to increase the frequency of entering the RPD I believe.

At first glance, it seems to be easier to get into the game by raising the frequency of appearance of the grenade launcher, but the game of Resident Evil3 is rather heavily dependent on the contents of subsequent luck elements.

As a result, competition to bring out good luck elements and rare luck elements will rarely continue, so people thinking that people who had given up Resident Evil3 with the appearance of Magnum will give up on continuing this game .

And most of all, because of the high occurrence frequency of Magnum, I think that the value of good record in the grenade launcher is high because this game is difficult to continue.

Honestly, I think that the disadvantage of lowering the value of this good record is far greater than the merit of raising the frequency of appearance of the grenade launcher.

England

@BlaneAndGame I said No and I used to run this game and I keep a place in my heart and computer for it so there goes most of your argument as for "all the active runners said yes" please don't make me go make a tally of who said what because I'm pretty sure almost everyone said No and that includes uhTrance, FurryWulfz, Rebecca and Wusscake the WR holder (with the caveat of considering it another catagory).

Also as a matter of principal do not bring that "I don't see you running it so fuck off" attitude into this discussion it's wildly disrespectful for example: Personally I don't have a fuckin clue who you are mate and I know almost everyone in the community so I don't think your opinion matters at all in this discussion you started running this game a month ago and know nothing about what's happened in the past.

Isn't so nice is it?

I inquired about the whole "nobody would know" thing earlier and yes there is a way to tell if you are using the tool so cheaters would be found out.

clix_gaming likes this
Sweden

Alot of these non-runners have actually run the game before, watch other people run it and are involved with the RE community. I started to speedrun 4 years ago and altough RE3 hasn't been my main game I have been involved with it in one or another way and I do care what happens with the game, how its moderated and if I think something is wrong then I WILL point it out.

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Missouri, USA

@Anacharial wuss said yes only if its another category, rebecca said yes, furry is not an active runner neither is trance

it should absolutely be left more so to the active runners of the game. not saying people who used to run the game or run it occasionally have no say but it shouldnt be taken as highly as the people who currently run the game.

the issue is someone who runs re1 but not re3 should have no say. just because they are a part of the re community overall does not give them a say in a game they do not run

and @Darazanjoll you are currently not a moderator of re3

Edited by the author 6 years ago
United Kingdom

"Not an active runner."

Simply because my latest active PB to this site is from 2 years ago does not mean I do not run the game. I have a PB on China that was done like less than 3 weeks ago and practice the game offline. I simply did not submit that PB, because if anything my goal would ultimately be to beat SuperGamer's 42:16 on Mediakite (which isn't on the boards), which I do not want a text advantage for.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Roo, keny, and the_dude2618 like this
Sweden

@jakef1891 what does that have to do with anything?

Missouri, USA

also nothing against you @furrywulfz but if your run on the leaderboard is not current unless we scan everyones twitch account its hard for us to know you are active so far that i apologize

Missouri, USA

@Darazanjoll " how its moderated and if I think something is wrong then I WILL point it out."

this statement seems to me that you believe you are a moderator here. if i am wrong i also apologize for this

Missouri, USA

but at this point this thread has pretty much devolved into mindless chatter. dchaps has stated he will only release this if only if EVERYONE in the re3 community agrees. it is obvious that we do not all agree so this should personally in my opinion end here and we should lock the thread